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Post by bamafan on Dec 8, 2014 13:19:57 GMT -5
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Post by melliemom on Dec 8, 2014 13:55:15 GMT -5
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Post by melliemom on Dec 8, 2014 14:04:00 GMT -5
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Post by snappie on Dec 8, 2014 14:08:13 GMT -5
On some forums or comment sections, why do some people feel that as a die-hard fan, you must choose being in either Freddie's camp or Adam's camp? The arguments for either side sometime seem in vain, as you can't really compare these two. Their musical talents, engaging personalities and relationships to the other Queen members are/were unique. As Adam has repeated over and over again, he cannot touch Freddie's legacy. His "mission" is to bring to life, the timeless music of Queen, and to entertain new and old fans in the same vigor and showmanship that Freddie would have done.
I love that Brian and Roger have embraced Adam, not as a guest frontman, but as a worthy band member. A lot of musical groups and bands from the 60s, 70s through to the 2000s are still performing today, even with the loss of certain members. A lot of thought was put into the QAL concert production so that there was a balance for those who love Queen's music, Freddie and Adam. For example, Freddie's Bohemian Rhapsody will always be my favorite, but I will also enjoy those who can sing it well, as Adam did over 5 years ago when he first belted out, "Mama, just killed a man".
These days, he is not only honoring Freddie and keeping his band's legacy alive, but also being true to himself while entertaining the masses. Yet, the negative comments rear their ugly heads time and time again. When Adam is onstage, he is beaming with pride of performing with Brian and Roger. If audiences are willing to buy tickets, why would they not want to do future tours or concert events? I believe Adam can have the best of both worlds - his own artistic ambitions (which go beyond singing) and a place in history as a legitimate Queen band member.
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Post by Q3 on Dec 8, 2014 14:36:50 GMT -5
That headline is designed to get attention and a reaction. It has nothing to do with anything that Brian actually said. IMO it should've have even been posted because it's just a piece of tripe twisting Brian's words and looking for hits.
As for "many" queen fans being annoyed, I don't think a few posters on QOL or QZ are indicative of an entire fanbase nor do I think anyone who hasn't seen Adam live can disregard Brian's opinion on the current shows v. the shows with Freddie since he is the one who has performed with both.
Well I didn't say most or all....but let me clarify - Unlike many Queen fans I have spoken too, most of which HAVE seen QAL. Please note again, I was not annoyed. But it is their right to be annoyed. And to be fair - Many of the Queen fans I have spoken to who have seen QAL they enjoyed their experience - they thought Adam was a great choice. It is interesting to note that the ones who saw QAL but NOT Queen were far happy with the experience. Most of the ones who saw both still had an enjoyable experience, were happy they went, and would go again even if it didn't hit the same heights as the original. And that's not a negative review at all. I would say it's more accurate to say that I don't think a few posters on QOL or QZ are indicative of an entire fanbase with regards to the vitriol and trolling type behavior...if that makes sense... Talon, this is a click bait of the worst sort. Note that that they've placed only one tag on it - "adam lambert" - surely with the only purpose to get traffic out of Adam fans. Ignore! ( and this is coming from a person who truly enjoys QAL much more than Q) I will ignore I just nearly spit my coffee out when I saw that headline. Stupid inflammatory article that is so detrimental to QAL that it's mind boggling... For starters, I hope Brian bashed them for that twisted headline. But it is not the first time that an online news report twisted something. ** Regarding comparing Q+AL to Queen is useless. We can never go back again except in our dreams. But we can recapture a bit of the fun, excitement and joy that was Queen -- no more. And a large part of that magic IMO started to fade in 1981-1982 long before Freddie died and John retired. Even if the original 4 were on stage and were all 30 years old, too much else has changed to make it the same. I adore Adam and think there is no one better than him to bring this music back to life -- and I am pleased with the respectful but somewhat original way Q+AL has done that. ** Here are 7 reasons why Q+AL can never be Queen circa 1978. 1. Brain and Roger are both great but different than they wear 30 or 40 years ago -- not as wild or energetic. Although, in someways the maturity has served both of them well. 2. John is not on that stage. He is more essential to the Queen sound then people give him credit for. I miss him. There is no replacement. 3. Freddie (the musician) is not on that stage. Spike is not a substitute for Freddie on piano. It is not the same. 4. Freddie (the lead singer/entertainer/performer) is vastly different than Adam. Freddie was a more commanding, more powerful presence on stage. If you saw him live, you were blessed because it cannot be replicated. Adam has more vocal finesse particularly on the power ballads and in the higher register, he is more "musical theater" in a good way. Freddie was more erratic and more likely to do something unexpected based on his read of the audience -- sometimes it was crap, sometimes it was brilliant like the STL from Montreal. 5. The people who saw Queen live -- 1971 - 1986 -- have changed and have altered their memories of that experience. I include me in this one. My memory of Queen in 1974 is colored by history, my experience, who I was with at the time, the fact that I was 20 and everything was new, exciting and dangerous. I have seen a lot in my life, I have experienced a lot of music, I have higher demands for sound quality. Anyone who actually claims to really accurately remember a concert form 30 or 40+ years ago is not correct, it is not how our minds work. (This is part of what I research and I have expertise in the area of the gap between actual sensory experience and experience memory -- they are vastly different at the time, and the difference increases over time.) 6. What was new music when Queen performed it in 1971 - 1986 is not part of our shared cultural memory. WWRY was once somewhat dangerous, now it is part of TV commercials to sell cars and video game and played at sporting events and by marching bands. This changes the experience of a performance. 7. The most important difference I notice is the audience. In 1974 the average age of the Queen audience was around 20 years old. There were tons of high school kids at their concerts. My guess of Q+AL North America was the average age of the audience was around 45-50 years old which many 60 year old fans bringing their 20-something kids. That changes the entire atmosphere of a concert. [The oldest crowds I saw were at the 2012 London Q+AL Hammersmith concerts. Many people in their 60's and 70's there.] A Queen concert circa 1978 was as much about the audience participating and interacting as it was about the band -- that does not exist now and can never be recaptured. (Unless Brian May really invents a time machine. **
I have no desire to relive my life experiences. And someone who is only 30 does not get to live experiences that happened in 1974 or 1978 or 1982 -- they get their own path. But I and many, many others had a great time at Q+AL concerts in 2012, 2014 and I look forward to some new experiences in 2015. Isn't that enough?
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Post by Q3 on Dec 8, 2014 14:38:47 GMT -5
On some forums or comment sections, why do some people feel that as a die-hard fan, you must choose being in either Freddie's camp or Adam's camp? The arguments for either side sometime seem in vain, as you can't really compare these two. Their musical talents, engaging personalities and relationships to the other Queen members are/were unique. As Adam has repeated over and over again, he cannot touch Freddie's legacy. His "mission" is to bring to life, the timeless music of Queen, and to entertain new and old fans in the same vigor and showmanship that Freddie would have done. I love that Brian and Roger have embraced Adam, not as a guest frontman, but as a worthy band member. A lot of musical groups and bands from the 60s, 70s through to the 2000s are still performing today, even with the loss of certain members. A lot of thought was put into the QAL concert production so that there was a balance for those who love Queen's music, Freddie and Adam. For example, Freddie's Bohemian Rhapsody will always be my favorite, but I will also enjoy those who can sing it well, as Adam did over 5 years ago when he first belted out, "Mama, just killed a man". These days, he is not only honoring Freddie and keeping his band's legacy alive, but also being true to himself while entertaining the masses. Yet, the negative comments rear their ugly heads time and time again. When Adam is onstage, he is beaming with pride of performing with Brian and Roger. If audiences are willing to buy tickets, why would they not want to do future tours or concert events? I believe Adam can have the best of both worlds - his own artistic ambitions (which go beyond singing) and a place in history as a legitimate Queen band member. SpinDanceYes.
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Post by Q3 on Dec 8, 2014 14:42:31 GMT -5
Only 6 hours to go!! Adam is still in second place only beaten by the amazing (and extremely valuable Choppard bear).
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Post by melliemom on Dec 8, 2014 15:01:32 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2014 15:11:54 GMT -5
No, you're right, you said MANY not most or all.
I'm sure many appreciate the way you're always relaying how other Queen fans feel. However, I'd prefer they come and post here themselves if they would like to share their feelings on the subject of QAL, rather than receive that information from a third party, so they can, if they wish, explain why they feel the way they do.
They cannot post here. It would be against the rules. The Adamtopia guidelines are quite simple. To be a member of Adamtopia... 1. You must be an Adam fan. Read more: adamtopia.com/thread/2704/12-8-14-adam?page=1#ixzz3LKPc5ae6well I guess I'm confused...if they aren't allowed to post here, why would their opinions be noted here?
Also, if you've ever read Talon's comments on QOL I think you'd be hard pressed to call him an Adam fan.
Q3: The discussion of 1. The Adamtopia Guildlines, 2. Any member's right to post (that decision belongs to the moderators), and 3. Who can or cannot post here (that decision belongs to the moderators) is CLOSED.
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Post by plaidearthworm on Dec 8, 2014 15:23:18 GMT -5
While it's quiet, did anyone else notice that Brian May announced a new YouTube channel? It's mainly for his other interests like 3D viewing, but still, it's cool and it's Brian! www.brianmay.com/brian/brianssb/brianssbdec14a.html#11Note: The new channel starts up in January, the videos listed on the Soapbox page are on an established Queen channel.
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