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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2015 16:38:54 GMT -5
who is blaming her for what happened? According to the website, it was an assignment she did for a class in 2011, it's not even a piece of commercial art she has for sale. She should be credited for her work but IMO a bigger deal is being made out of it than it necessary. and people should stop going through google images and using the things they find there to make fan art. If it's not your original work then don't put it up on twitter. The Internet has completely and forever changed the idea of use - copyright laws are woefully behind the curve. If you are putting anything up online check out and use Creative Commons - it is a "copyright" protocol developed specifically for online age. Re this situation, yes artist can be upset and when or why the piece was created doesn't matter, however the way to handle it is to be nice not throw shame and blame around. People who have made exposure point are dead on. You might be the best artist ever but if I don't know about you I can't care about you, handled right this could have been a priceless opportunity with a win win for all... #carryon I completely agree. the whole thing was blown out of proportion from the minute someone posted on her DA page. Adam asked where the town came from and it would have been simple to tell him and have HIM contact the artist in question and ask if she minded him using it. Instead she got bombarded with tweets about her work being "stolen" (it was repurposed, which is atually common in the world of art - Andy Warhol wouldn't even have had a career without doing that IMO). it's all over now anyway since Adam removed the banner from twitter. Perhaps one of his fans who actually draws (and he has many) can draw him a ghost town for his banner.
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Post by 4EverAdam on Apr 11, 2015 16:41:45 GMT -5
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Post by pi on Apr 11, 2015 16:42:05 GMT -5
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Post by HoppersSkippersMiners on Apr 11, 2015 16:43:17 GMT -5
I have no desire to see Adam or anyone remake RH, but wow, that's quite a phrase. I haven't had enough coffee yet. I guess I've never seen adam as a caricature because of eyeliner, hair or his queerness. I haven't either, but I have seen him characterized as such in the media. Haven't you? For example, there is a new TV police drama called Backstrom. A secondary character named Valentine is a flamboyantly gay guy with black spiky hair and dark black eyeliner. A reviewer described the character as an "Adam Lambert." I don't want Adam Lambert to be known as a stereotype of that image. <shrug> Honestly, I truly *don't* see that as a bad thing. That people have enough awareness of an individual that they put a name to a signature style isn't a negative to me, even if said style is now changing. The best example I can come up with is as follows: The "Beatle Mop Top" is a common short-hand phrase for a hair style that none of those guys have had for over 50 years. I don't expect Paul McCartney to still be wearing it. But, I don't see any negative issues that it's attributed to him and his old styling. Likewise, I don't see a problem with an "Adam Lambert" style being shorthand for eyeliner and spiky black hair. Yep, he's moved on. But so did Paul. For me, it's just a grin and a bit of nostalgia. And as this era moves on, I feel it will be for others too.
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Post by bridgeymah on Apr 11, 2015 16:43:47 GMT -5
The Internet has completely and forever changed the idea of use - copyright laws are woefully behind the curve. If you are putting anything up online check out and use Creative Commons - it is a "copyright" protocol developed specifically for online age. Re this situation, yes artist can be upset and when or why the piece was created doesn't matter, however the way to handle it is to be nice not throw shame and blame around. People who have made exposure point are dead on. You might be the best artist ever but if I don't know about you I can't care about you, handled right this could have been a priceless opportunity with a win win for all... #carryon I completely agree. the whole thing was blown out of proportion from the minute someone posted on her DA page. Adam asked where the town came from and it would have been simple to tell him and have HIM contact the artist in question and ask if she minded him using it. Instead she got bombarded with tweets about her work being "stolen" (it was repurposed, which is atually common in the world of art - Andy Warhol wouldn't even have had a career without doing that IMO). it's all over now anyway since Adam removed the banner from twitter. Perhaps one of his fans who actually draws (and he has many) can draw him a ghost town for his banner. From opportunity back to obscurity faster than you can say #arththief...
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Post by 4EverAdam on Apr 11, 2015 16:44:25 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2015 16:45:37 GMT -5
I completely agree. the whole thing was blown out of proportion from the minute someone posted on her DA page. Adam asked where the town came from and it would have been simple to tell him and have HIM contact the artist in question and ask if she minded him using it. Instead she got bombarded with tweets about her work being "stolen" (it was repurposed, which is atually common in the world of art - Andy Warhol wouldn't even have had a career without doing that IMO). it's all over now anyway since Adam removed the banner from twitter. Perhaps one of his fans who actually draws (and he has many) can draw him a ghost town for his banner. From opportunity back to obscurity faster than you can say #arththief...
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Post by LindaG23 on Apr 11, 2015 16:47:23 GMT -5
I haven't either, but I have seen him characterized as such in the media. Haven't you? For example, there is a new TV police drama called Backstrom. A secondary character named Valentine is a flamboyantly gay guy with black spiky hair and dark black eyeliner. A reviewer described the character as an "Adam Lambert." I don't want Adam Lambert to be known as a stereotype of that image. <shrug> Honestly, I truly *don't* see that as a bad thing. That people have enough awareness of an individual that they put a name to a signature style isn't a negative to me, even if said style is now changing. The best example I can come up with is as follows: The "Beatle Mop Top" is a common short-hand phrase for a hair style that none of those guys have had for over 50 years. I don't expect Paul McCartney to still be wearing it. But, I don't see any negative issues that it's attributed to him and his old styling. Likewise, I don't see a problem with an "Adam Lambert" style being shorthand for eyeliner and spiky black hair. Yep, he's moved on. But so did Paul. For me, it's just a grin and a bit of nostalgia. And as this era moves on, I feel it will be for others too. Someone watched The Big Bang Theory this week. Eh.
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Post by Jablea on Apr 11, 2015 16:49:36 GMT -5
We've already listed this one as something that didn't credit the original town artist either. So don't know why it's being posted again. ETA: this photoshopper never credits her sources from what I've read from our Art thread.
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Post by HoppersSkippersMiners on Apr 11, 2015 16:55:27 GMT -5
<shrug> Honestly, I truly *don't* see that as a bad thing. That people have enough awareness of an individual that they put a name to a signature style isn't a negative to me, even if said style is now changing. The best example I can come up with is as follows: The "Beatle Mop Top" is a common short-hand phrase for a hair style that none of those guys have had for over 50 years. I don't expect Paul McCartney to still be wearing it. But, I don't see any negative issues that it's attributed to him and his old styling. Likewise, I don't see a problem with an "Adam Lambert" style being shorthand for eyeliner and spiky black hair. Yep, he's moved on. But so did Paul. For me, it's just a grin and a bit of nostalgia. And as this era moves on, I feel it will be for others too. Someone watched The Big Bang Theory this week. Eh. Oh man - I love that show, and never get to watch. Did I miss something really good? Nah - the reason it came up is that my husband was playing "Yellow Submarine" in the car and so I have Beatles on the brain today.
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