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Post by devilwoman on May 23, 2015 6:13:42 GMT -5
Thanks for welcome. Yes,and see That sound as a hook in it self. It surely got EVERYBODY talking.
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Post by rpeura on May 23, 2015 6:24:32 GMT -5
But I thought there weren't any credits for singers on the album. Why is this an issue? Because our dear, sweet, humble Adam has a healthy ego and takes great pride in his work. He likes to be the focus of attention when performing. He wants to be a superstar. He works very hard at it, and wants the recognition. He likes to collaborate with others, he likes to be part of a tribe, but he also wants to be front and center, not the chorus boy in the green hat at the back. We love how down to earth, genuine, and modest Adam is in conversations and interviews. And that is true. But, if anyone believes he has no ego or need to be the center of attention when performing, you probably haven't been around a lot of passionate solo performers. BTW, it is also possibly a reason Adam jokes about being difficult to deal with in a relationship. Like many artists, I imagine that his work, his art, his career, and his goals are his top priorities. In an interview a couple of years ago, Adam admitted that, and said his friends understood because they were the same. I know a number of folks like that. They are not narcissistic or egotistical, in the traditional sense. They are kind, caring, loving people. Their focus is just on their art, sometimes, (or more than some times), to the exclusion of other events and relationships around them. That is what it takes to succeed in the business.
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Post by Q3 on May 23, 2015 10:12:51 GMT -5
I strongly doubt that Adam did not know the "details" before he recorded the vocals for LMD. He has been in the music business for a long, long time. Featured artists do not get royalties, songwriters get a royalty share -- and Adam got a piece of every copy of TRUE that sold, worldwide plus a piece of every single sale, plus a piece of the licensing by Lipton, plus a piece of every stream, plus.... In other words, it was more than a "few" royalties. *** Pardon me ...for my use of the words ...." a few royalties" ...without a smilie or a wink face. (rofl)And ...Yes, I assume the "generalities" of contracts are well known to Adam. Did Nile share details of a contract style? Adam may have known the Avicii style of contracts...but details???...the lawyers were probably at home in bed? Adam went for it and I am very happy he got his butt over to the studio. I think that Adam's expression is being misinterpreted. I recommend going back and listening to what he actually said vs. reading the interpretation -- or IMHO the misinterpretation of Adam's comment. We know that Adam was happy with LMD, and is still on excellent terms with Nile and AVICII. The business details are another matter but I am sure, absolutely sure that Adam did not step foot into a recording studio without his management knowing about it. And if there was any issue with LMD for Adam, there was no evidence of it when he performed with Nile on two occasions or in Biloxi or when Nile was at Q+AL in NJ, or when he spent 2 more days working with Nile and AVICII and Mystery Skulls. I think people are seeing Adam's fatigue with answering Idol questions, and make-up questions, and gay-gay-gay questions, and not get any recognition for his music -- not that one song, but in those Chicago interviews, it was like he was on Idol with make-up on and came out, and did some concerts with Queen and etc. but no mention of any of his solo music (except the album) or his collaboration projects from 2013 (LMD being the significant item.) >> Most of the good questions in Chicago came from fans.
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Post by Q3 on May 23, 2015 10:19:15 GMT -5
Q3 is hoping for 250K total sales, cumulative! Not 250 first week! Also, I do not remember Adam ever saying Brian had "ideas" for Lucy. Just that Brian played the guitar riff. Nile played guitar on Shady. He was not a writer. Same situation. Brian is a performer on the track and it says, "featuring Brian May" on the track listing. Yes, 250K TOTAL US SALES would be excellent. This is 2015, not 2009 or 2004. *** I believe that Adam specifically said he played the song for Brian and that Brian had some "ideas" about the song and came up with the guitar riff. Usually writing a guitar riff or guitar break does not result in a songwriting credit. Brian did the same thing on Lady Gaga's "You and I" (wrote the guitar break) which includes a Brian May feature plus samples WWRY -- he is a featured artist not a songwriter on that track.
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Post by Q3 on May 23, 2015 10:22:44 GMT -5
Q3, I am actually surprised that you are hoping for 250K. I would be of course delighted, but that is higher than FYE and 3 times the first week sale of TSP. Yes, the run-up, as we all agree, was much better managed and he is now more known via QAL and Glee, but still, that is a big number in today's market. So, let's hope for the best. ..... I am hopeful TOH will sell 250K TOTAL IN THE US in 2015, not week 1.
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Post by stampsgal on May 23, 2015 11:17:56 GMT -5
Pardon me ...for my use of the words ...." a few royalties" ...without a smilie or a wink face. (rofl)And ...Yes, I assume the "generalities" of contracts are well known to Adam. Did Nile share details of a contract style? Adam may have known the Avicii style of contracts...but details???...the lawyers were probably at home in bed? Adam went for it and I am very happy he got his butt over to the studio. I think that Adam's expression is being misinterpreted. I recommend going back and listening to what he actually said vs. reading the interpretation -- or IMHO the misinterpretation of Adam's comment. We know that Adam was happy with LMD, and is still on excellent terms with Nile and AVICII. The business details are another matter but I am sure, absolutely sure that Adam did not step foot into a recording studio without his management knowing about it. And if there was any issue with LMD for Adam, there was no evidence of it when he performed with Nile on two occasions or in Biloxi or when Nile was at Q+AL in NJ, or when he spent 2 more days working with Nile and AVICII and Mystery Skulls. I think people are seeing Adam's fatigue with answering Idol questions, and make-up questions, and gay-gay-gay questions, and not get any recognition for his music -- not that one song, but in those Chicago interviews, it was like he was on Idol with make-up on and came out, and did some concerts with Queen and etc. but no mention of any of his solo music (except the album) or his collaboration projects from 2013 (LMD being the significant item.) >> Most of the good questions in Chicago came from fans. Oh golly....I should just let this die, but I am getting a bit defensive...so wish to respond. Haha I did not even think of all the above re interviews etc. when responding....I think we are more on the same page than not. It is my fault. In my first post I was trying to be brief and obviously did not make myself clear to those who thought there were ill feelings. All I was trying to say to folk was ....it was a fast process. Adam made the decision to do the work....whether he knew the details or not. I also said, he would get paid for his songwriting (on the album song). ( I guess I should have added ... But just wanted you know my own thinking on the subject of the introductions. I have never thought there were ill feelings. All the artists on the album were in the same boat. They made the decision to collaborate. It was Adam's decision to do the work and he reaped benefits from it. He can clarify why his name is not on an Avicii tune anyway he wants and I take it as ....just the way Adam wants to clarify the lack of his name when discussing or introducing the song. )
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Post by belle on May 23, 2015 12:19:36 GMT -5
Oh yes. The subject was brought up by the interviewer asking if he would do some house or EDM type music that she liked very much. Adam was responding to that saying he has done that (and there's some of it on the new album). 'Leaving his name out' was not a point he had on his agenda, it was simply a response - and a nice way of letting the interviewer off the hook with a plausible explanation (that she might've not known).
I really don't see why this mention in a reply is highlighted here - even more so in a light of ill will towards Avicii. Similarly, I have the same kind of opinion about the trash talk against Sterling Fox, too; he was excited about the song and talked about it, nothing to hate him for there IMO.
People sure are different and that's just life - but it makes me sad to read these kinds of things, like some people lived for gossip together with salacious details wanting to dose shame. I would like to think Atop members are better than that and I'd rather see a positive spin on these radio interviews that are important to the success of GT.
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Post by Q3 on May 23, 2015 17:35:49 GMT -5
I think that Adam's expression is being misinterpreted. I recommend going back and listening to what he actually said vs. reading the interpretation -- or IMHO the misinterpretation of Adam's comment. We know that Adam was happy with LMD, and is still on excellent terms with Nile and AVICII. The business details are another matter but I am sure, absolutely sure that Adam did not step foot into a recording studio without his management knowing about it. And if there was any issue with LMD for Adam, there was no evidence of it when he performed with Nile on two occasions or in Biloxi or when Nile was at Q+AL in NJ, or when he spent 2 more days working with Nile and AVICII and Mystery Skulls. I think people are seeing Adam's fatigue with answering Idol questions, and make-up questions, and gay-gay-gay questions, and not get any recognition for his music -- not that one song, but in those Chicago interviews, it was like he was on Idol with make-up on and came out, and did some concerts with Queen and etc. but no mention of any of his solo music (except the album) or his collaboration projects from 2013 (LMD being the significant item.) >> Most of the good questions in Chicago came from fans. Oh golly....I should just let this die, but I am getting a bit defensive...so wish to respond. Haha I did not even think of all the above re interviews etc. when responding....I think we are more on the same page than not. It is my fault. In my first post I was trying to be brief and obviously did not make myself clear to those who thought there were ill feelings. All I was trying to say to folk was ....it was a fast process. Adam made the decision to do the work....whether he knew the details or not. I also said, he would get paid for his songwriting (on the album song). ( I guess I should have added ... But just wanted you know my own thinking on the subject of the introductions. I have never thought there were ill feelings. All the artists on the album were in the same boat. They made the decision to collaborate. It was Adam's decision to do the work and he reaped benefits from it. He can clarify why his name is not on an Avicii tune anyway he wants and I take it as ....just the way Adam wants to clarify the lack of his name when discussing or introducing the song. ) I misunderstood your comment about royalties -- I took it literally. But Nile and Adam were already working on the Avicii project before the night in the recording studio when he sang the vocal for LMD. So Adam was not surprised by the deal, just by the specific timing of the recording session on the night LMD was written/recorded. Nile discussed it in a few interviews. Here is one....at 1:50 Nile says "so I'm working with him (Adam Lambert) on a bunch of stuff because I have the project for Avicii...." ... and then he tells the story about calling Adam to come over to the recording studio. They already had an agreement in place before the recording session that produced LMD. Here is the interview: youtu.be/Xg-KklRf4po*** Needless to say -- I am certain that Adam is on very good terms with both Avicii and Nile Rodgers. Would Adam have liked to have his name listed as the vocalist on LMD, sure who wouldn't? I am an Avicii fan but I really find the lack of vocalist credits on his recordings to be odd. Not so bad for Adam because he is famous on his own. e Avici But what is worse is when a vocalist is featured on a recording and gets no royalties -- and that is a common practice in the music business.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2015 0:22:12 GMT -5
Oh yes. The subject was brought up by the interviewer asking if he would do some house or EDM type music that she liked very much. Adam was responding to that saying he has done that (and there's some of it on the new album). 'Leaving his name out' was not a point he had on his agenda, it was simply a response - and a nice way of letting the interviewer off the hook with a plausible explanation (that she might've not known). I really don't see why this mention in a reply is highlighted here - even more so in a light of ill will towards Avicii. Similarly, I have the same kind of opinion about the trash talk against Sterling Fox, too; he was excited about the song and talked about it, nothing to hate him for there IMO. People sure are different and that's just life - but it makes me sad to read these kinds of things, like some people lived for gossip together with salacious details wanting to dose shame. I would like to think Atop members are better than that and I'd rather see a positive spin on these radio interviews that are important to the success of GT. way late on a dead thread, but 159,039,000 gold stars for you! spot on Belle!
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Post by nannygoat on Jun 8, 2015 14:50:28 GMT -5
Have bought the 4 individual tracks from i-tunes but now want to preorder the album CD. Should I buy at Itunes or Amazon? Does it make any difference?
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