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Post by phronni7 on Jun 1, 2020 20:29:34 GMT -5
If someone posted this before, sorry. I am way behind. This is a brief talk about our situation which could certainly be applied to many situations, places and mindsets. Trevor Noah is host of The Daily Show, and he has certainly kept me laughing during our Stay at Home and just in general. Trevor is a genius. He speaks seven languages and is amazing with impressions and dialects. He is extremely well-informed on world affairs, and each show has chunks of information that I didn’t know before. As important to any of this, though, is that Trevor grew up in Apartheid South Africa in Soweto. Because he was the son of a South African Woman and a Swiss father, he was born a “crime” as he says, and he had to spend a great deal of time hiding in his grandmother’s house so that the police didn’t see him, “confiscate” him, and give him to a colored family as he would be labeled. This talk is appropriately and decidedly not funny but measured and crystal clear. Anyway, for anyone who is interested and would like to see it, here is the link: youtu.be/v4amCfVbA_c
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Post by sizzling63 on Jun 1, 2020 20:32:20 GMT -5
I just read the Guardian article, LindaG23 . Very enlightening indeed to look at the term "violence" more profoundly. "... Right now, several forms of structural violence that particularly matter are the chronic stress and lack of access to healthcare, housing issues, and work situations that have made black Americans die of Covid-19 at far higher rates than other races." I think the tipping point has been reached, especially as there are communities who I can imagine are experiencing the same stressors. The situation really reminds me of 1970 when during a protest of the war in Cambodia, the students at Kent State were killed by the National Guard. The protests and violence exploded around the country and were symptomatic of all of the issues that were bubbling up at the time including the anti war movement, black equality etc. It too was very violent and I remember being evacuated from my college classes due to bomb threats. It started May 4th in 1970 and all classes around the country were cancelled. It was a very long, hot summer. Then, like now, outside elements stirred the pot. Unlike now, however, I was part of that protest and knew that radical groups were there and the media treated it just like today...focus on the violence. Oh, dear. I can imagine how the current events must bring back memories of what happened 50 years ago, and I am sure that some members on this board may be feeling similarly. I was a first grader in 1970, and I grew up in Germany, and I moved to the US in my late twenties. To this day there are chapters in recent US history, like the shootings at Kent, that I haven't even been aware of. I just read up on it and I find it ironic that the event is still relatable and relevant 50 years later. It looks like it was the killing of four white students that brought the anti-Vietnam protests global attention, while the killing of black students at the same time went unnoticed.
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Post by sizzling63 on Jun 1, 2020 20:42:48 GMT -5
Thanks for the Trevor Noah post, phronni7 . I watch his "Daily Show" religiously and his "Born A Crime" book is on my nightstand ready to be read. Trevor doesn't mask things but somehow he lifts my spirits and makes me laugh, and he invites very unique interview guests. That particular episode you posted has understandably a more somber tone, and it gave me a lot of thoughts. Trevor is brave, and I agree that he is very good at what he does. A comedic genius indeed. Some day I want to see him live.
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Post by deb5anne on Jun 1, 2020 20:43:01 GMT -5
The situation really reminds me of 1970 when during a protest of the war in Cambodia, the students at Kent State were killed by the National Guard. The protests and violence exploded around the country and were symptomatic of all of the issues that were bubbling up at the time including the anti war movement, black equality etc. It too was very violent and I remember being evacuated from my college classes due to bomb threats. It started May 4th in 1970 and all classes around the country were cancelled. It was a very long, hot summer. Then, like now, outside elements stirred the pot. Unlike now, however, I was part of that protest and knew that radical groups were there and the media treated it just like today...focus on the violence. Oh, dear. I can imagine how the current events must bring back memories of what happened 50 years ago, and I am sure that some members on this board may be feeling similarly. I was a first grader in 1970, and I grew up in Germany, and I moved to the US in my late twenties. To this day there are chapters in recent US history, like the shootings at Kent, that I haven't even been aware of. I just read up on it and I find it ironic that the event is still relatable and relevant 50 years later. It looks like it was the killing of four white students that brought the anti-Vietnam protests global attention, while the killing of black students at the same time went unnoticed. Yah I remember the Kent State shootings. That was the year I graduated from high school although I'll admit I hadn't thought of it recently. I remember the 67 riots in Detroit better because I'm in that area. I also remember Stonewall which was in 69. I've probably thought of that one more because of Adam and because we finally went there last summer during Pride month. We just missed Adam there. My sister lives there so I had gone to see her. My nephew and his wife live in Charlotte. They were planning to go see my sister in NY this weekend. Changed their minds about 10 days ago. It's just as well. It's difficult that's for sure.
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Post by donnamb on Jun 1, 2020 20:50:10 GMT -5
I can't believe what just happened. The military was just called out to pepper spray and tear gas the peaceful protesters standing in Lafayette Park, so the President can have a photo in front of the church that sustained damage last night. And the priest-in-charge and the bishop were not consulted - or even given a phone call - about the use of the building as a prop. They have posted their firm disagreement about the use of force to disperse peaceful protesters.
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Post by LindaG23 on Jun 1, 2020 21:00:24 GMT -5
phronni7 Wow!, that Daily Show!!! Trevor Noah is so compelling, thoughtful, and persuasive. Thank you for posting.
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Post by lorraine on Jun 1, 2020 21:20:52 GMT -5
What has just been declared by the fucking monster who masquerades as our president is an abomination. A military state?? Federal troops in every state?? Let the 'freedom fighters' of the Second Amendment point their AK47s at us? In all my 70 years, I have never witnessed a moment such as this. Abomination. I will resist till my dying day. No time for thoughts of beauty and JOY today,dear momtomany. Your words echo the deepest feelings of my heart. Your words are some of the most profound you've ever written. Together, we shall make a better tomorrow for our brothers and sisters all over this land. And, may we have a leader that can lift our sorrows and bring us to a place of dignity and peace once again.
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Post by mszue on Jun 1, 2020 21:47:10 GMT -5
If someone posted this before, sorry. I am way behind. This is a brief talk about our situation which could certainly be applied to many situations, places and mindsets. Trevor Noah is host of The Daily Show, and he has certainly kept me laughing during our Stay at Home and just in general. Trevor is a genius. He speaks seven languages and is amazing with impressions and dialects. He is extremely well-informed on world affairs, and each show has chunks of information that I didn’t know before. As important to any of this, though, is that Trevor grew up in Apartheid South Africa in Soweto. Because he was the son of a South African Woman and a Swiss father, he was born a “crime” as he says, and he had to spend a great deal of time hiding in his grandmother’s house so that the police didn’t see him, “confiscate” him, and give him to a colored family as he would be labeled. This talk is appropriately and decidedly not funny but measured and crystal clear. Anyway, for anyone who is interested and would like to see it, here is the link: youtu.be/v4amCfVbA_cGeo blocked
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Post by svca on Jun 1, 2020 22:10:54 GMT -5
Good lord
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