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Post by Guest on Mar 8, 2012 23:25:47 GMT -5
When did the radio station post this? I think I've missed it. There were tweets from the Bert show radio station people and the VP about watching Adam -- I think they are in the main news thread. But I'm pretty sure it was the long interview from the Bert show (not the youtube clips, on their pages they posted two long audio only recordings) where they remarked on all the station people crowded in the room. I don't remember the exact words. Okay, thanks. I'll go check it out  |
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Post by tigerlily on Mar 9, 2012 0:02:44 GMT -5
I don't think many have said they hate or even dislike BTIKM. I think we're just trying to figure out WHY it's languishing. Nothing wrong with that IMO. Just because some of us are expressing reasons why we think BTIKM might not be making it on CHR at this time, doesn't mean we dislike the song. For my part of the statement above, I said there was ONE PART, ONE PART of the song that is hard to sing along to because it is so high. I also said that being able to sing along to a song is usually important for producing a hit song, especially on Top 40 radio. I did not say that this was a component of a good song or a song that I personally enjoy! Jazzrocks: I agree and thank you for saying what you said. |
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Post by tigerlily on Mar 9, 2012 0:21:48 GMT -5
Well, I have said many, many times that I love BTIKM. But I don't think it has the strongest hook. And you know what, a lot of my favorite songs aren't exactly "hooky." I am frustrated because BTIKM hasn't been added by Z100. And I am frustrated because I have yet to hear this song on the radio. I am confused because I think RCA could be doing more to get the song played (and I'm not talking about Adam's amazing radio tour, I'm talking about doing what it takes behind the scenes). I'm still supporting the song. I am still rooting for it. It is moving in the right direction, but it could take all Spring at this rate. I didn't expect Adam to rush up the charts, but I did expect better radio support from CHR. And I did expect better results from Canada and New Zealand. ITA with all of this. I love BTIKM, love the video, love Adam's voice on it- whether it is acoustic or plugged in. I thought it would be one of those mid-tempo songs like WWFM that was needed in the top 20 of most CHR play lists. If BTIKM is going to get there, it is taking a much longer time than WWFM did and that took 6 months to peak. I'm like you. My favorite songs from my favorite artists are almost never what is picked to be a radio single. WWFM was never my favorite off of FYE, but it was a great Pop song with a hook that was undeniable. It was a simple song with meaningful lyrics and radio stations kept it on the top of their recurrent lists forever! Look how fast IIHY fell out of the play lists of radio songs. A well-constructed pop song is hard to come by. Some songs hang around on radio forever because people never get tired of hearing them. I believe WWFM is going to be in this category for a very long time. |
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Post by Lolly on Mar 9, 2012 7:10:23 GMT -5
@allaccess Mediabase Makes Panel Changes allaccess.com/story/103369Mediabase Makes Panel ChangesEffective with the airplay week of MARCH 11-17, 2012 New audience data will also be put in with this change late FRIDAY, MARCH 16th. Top 40 Add: WBBM/CHICAGO Moves from Rhythmic Add: WJFX/FT. WAYNE Moves from Rhythmic Add: WJBQ/PORTLAND, ME Drop: WSTW/WILMINGTON, DE Moves to Hot AC Note: WSPK will now be listed as HUDSON VALLEY, NY (Market #39) Rhythmic Add: KSGG/RENO Add: KEZE/SPOKANE Drop: WBBM/CHICAGO Moves to Top 40 Drop: WJFX/FT. WAYNE Moves to Top 40 Urban Add: WPHI/PHILADELPHIA Urban AC Add: WMGU/FAYETTEVILLE, NC Add: WRBO/MEMPHIS Add: WRNB/PHILADELPHIA AC Add: KURB/LITTLE ROCK Moves from Hot AC Add: KBZN/SALT LAKE CITY Add: WMGF/ORLANDO Add: WHOM/PORTLAND, ME Drop: WSRW/GRAND RAPIDS Drop: WLRQ/MELBOURNE Drop: KRBB/WICHITA Drop: WSRS/WORCESTER, MA Drop: WEZF/BURLINGTON Moves to Hot AC Hot AC Add: WEZF/BURLINGTON Moves from AC Add: WMGX/PORTLAND, ME Add: KMXW/RENO Add: KLCK/SEATTLE Moves from Alternative Add: WSTW/WILMINGTON, DE Moves from Top 40 Drop: KURB/LITTLE ROCK Moves to AC Note: WHUD will now be listed as HUDSON VALLEY, NY (Market #39) Rock Drop: KTUX/SHREVEPORT Moves to Active Rock Active Rock Add: WJBX/FT. MYERS Moves from Alternative Add: WXNR/GREENVILLE, NC Moves from Alternative Add: WHXR/PORTLAND, ME Add: KTUX/SHREVEPORT, LA Moves from Rock Drop: KFRR/FRESNO Moves to Alternative Alternative Add: KFRR/FRESNO Moves from Active Rock Add: WCYY/PORTLAND, ME Drop: WJBX/FT. MYERS Moves to Active Rock Drop: WXNR/GREENVILLE, NC Moves to Active Rock Drop: KLCK/SeatTle Moves to Hot AC Triple A Add: WCLZ/PORTLAND, ME Regional Mexican Drop: XOCL/SAN DIEGO |
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Post by melliemom on Mar 9, 2012 8:01:25 GMT -5
BTIKM seems to be doing very well in other countries. Adam is an International star.. so what appeals to us in the U.S. may not appeal to others and visa versa . I love the song and IMHO, the video is a potential classic.. music is very subjective.
I do believe that we expect an A plus on all that Adam sings. BTW,He's one of the very few singers,who actually cares about each song on his album.. Many others have one or two good songs and the rest are fillers.
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Post by myspencer50 on Mar 9, 2012 9:42:01 GMT -5
OMG! I love Chokehold!!!!!! The ENTIRE song is a HOOK!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by theosgma on Mar 9, 2012 9:58:59 GMT -5
If you have not seen this in the main thread, there is something that is SO pertinent to our discussion. Rob Cosby of Digital Spy gave a lukewarm review to BTIKM when it came out. He posted a REVISED review taking it back after living with the song for awhile. It is so worthwhile reading what he had to say. It tells me this song will eventually make it - perhaps not fast enough to launch Trespassing the way we would like and hence the need for a second single but it will not be a loser. I am not so good at embedding so here is the link to copy paste. Go to page 19 on the main thread. www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/singlesreviews/a370320/adam-lambert-better-than-i-know-myself-single-review.html |
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Post by JazzRocks on Mar 9, 2012 9:59:20 GMT -5
I just want to add that a lot of the distress over this single is that the many in the fandom thought that any song that Adam put out was going to go racing up the charts and smash. That only happens to superstars, and as much as we love him, he is not a superstar yet. I truly believe that is why there is so much anger and worry. We were very unrealistic and set our own selves up in a way. I'm sad that Adam may be reading all the unhappiness about his song on twitter and the fandom angst. I agree that expectations might have been too high. I think of Adam as a superstar - can't help it even though I realize in the real world he is not there yet. I doubt he is reading this thread lol & I would hate it if we could not post our true feelings because of any infinitesimal chance that he might see it. I would NEVER post anything angsty on twitter tho. Different story. Besides I'm not unhappy at all!!!!!!! And now - CUCKOO for the next single! Cuckoo for the AI performance! Love it & this time I don't think it's unrealistic to think it will race up the CHR chart! This is perfect POP! |
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Post by stardust on Mar 9, 2012 10:03:52 GMT -5
Mediabase UpdateC HAC 39 37 ADAM LAMBERT Better Than I Know Myself 183 175 8 1.393 = Spins -4 Bullet -0.070 AI AC 42 36 ADAM LAMBERT Better Than I Know Myself 28 22 6 0.068 -1 Spin -2 Bullet -0.005 AI CHR 59 62 LAMBERT, ADAM Better Than I Know Myself 263 271 -8 0.736* *Update from 04/03-12. HAC 29 25 ADAM LAMBERT Better Than I Know Myself 863 767 96 3.308 +7 Spins -16 Bullet +0.006 AI adaminradioland.wordpress.com/
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Post by melliemom on Mar 9, 2012 10:12:20 GMT -5
If you have not seen this in the main thread, there is something that is SO pertinent to our discussion. Rob Cosby of Digital Spy gave a lukewarm review to BTIKM when it came out. He posted a REVISED review taking it back after living with the song for awhile. It is so worthwhile reading what he had to say. It tells me this song will eventually make it - perhaps not fast enough to launch Trespassing the way we would like and hence the need for a second single but it will not be a loser. I am not so good at embedding so here is the link to copy paste. Go to page 19 on the main thread. www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/singlesreviews/a370320/adam-lambert-better-than-i-know-myself-single-review.htmlAdam is not singing katy perry teenage songs.. his music has depth to it.. and it takes time to listen to all the layers and the true beauty of BTIKM. It's not for everyone ,but it's sure one of my favorites. IMHO I believe that Adam and Adele are raising the bar in popular music. They are both artists,story tellers. Adam will have his day and it won't be far off,after Queen and Adam,the sky. |
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Post by bullsfan on Mar 9, 2012 10:31:12 GMT -5
The vibe of Chokehold is amazing! And it sounds SO current. If RCA wanted to open with something mid-tempo, I don't know why they didn't go with this.
I haven't read the Rob Cosby thing yet, but I have always thought BTIKM is a grower. The "trouble" with this type of song is that it needs A LOT of radio support to work. And I am not quite sure if the song will be given that chance.
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Post by myspencer50 on Mar 9, 2012 11:52:23 GMT -5
Speaking of numbers, LOL, ever since I saw this week's sales numbers from Brian Mansfield I have been tracking Carrie's song Cowboy Casanova. BTIKM has been 10-40 ahead of it.
So, I should be able to post a good approximation of sales for BTIKM. If BTIKM starts to move up higher (and I am sure it will after VH1 tomorrow) I will look for an Idol Country tune that is close to it.
Wish I had thought of this sooner. We could have been tracking approximate sales much better.
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Post by bridget on Mar 9, 2012 11:54:36 GMT -5
Does anyone else think BTIKM will get another bump over the weekend if it makes that video countdown show again? I think it will, and hope that will keep the slow climb going a while longer (added to effect of Adam's "goodwill" radio tour).
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Post by tigerlily on Mar 9, 2012 12:08:52 GMT -5
BTIKM seems to be doing very well in other countries. Adam is an International star.. so what appeals to us in the U.S. may not appeal to others and visa versa . I love the song and IMHO, the video is a potential classic.. music is very subjective. I do believe that we expect an A plus on all that Adam sings. BTW,He's one of the very few singers,who actually cares about each song on his album.. Many others have one or two good songs and the rest are fillers. BTIKM is not doing well in other countries. It is doing well in Japan. We have posted this information several times. I agree with you that music is very subjective, but charts and itunes are facts and statistics. |
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Post by melliemom on Mar 9, 2012 12:30:26 GMT -5
BTIKM seems to be doing very well in other countries. Adam is an International star.. so what appeals to us in the U.S. may not appeal to others and visa versa . I love the song and IMHO, the video is a potential classic.. music is very subjective. I do believe that we expect an A plus on all that Adam sings. BTW,He's one of the very few singers,who actually cares about each song on his album.. Many others have one or two good songs and the rest are fillers. BTIKM is not doing well in other countries. It is doing well in Japan. We have posted this information several times. I agree with you that music is very subjective, but charts and itunes are facts and statistics. OK I want to see how it's doing in Finland,South Africa, Russia, Greece etc. I know I'm not crazy. Does anyone have a score card on the overseas plays? |
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