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Post by Q3 on Feb 24, 2013 12:31:49 GMT -5
So this makes all 5 shows, so far, sold out! Squeeeeeeeeee!! I was just looking for confirmation that last night was sold out -- and here it is! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2013 12:37:26 GMT -5
Radio might seem irrelevant to people who haven't listened to radio in 20 or so years but it's very relevant to teens/20-30 somethings, which is the key demographic that radio is aiming at. there is more in the equation these days with streaming and such but radio is still the biggest market to get an artist out to the public. I am sure there is a huge audience for radio, especially in the "car culture" - which is most of the US... however, with my "city kids" I see no radio listening among young people AT ALL, it is mostly streaming (Spotify is HUGE), and using playlists on their own devices (the question of HOW these are populated is a different story)... I can't even think of a way for them to "connect" to a radio station, unless they would do so from their phone - which I highly doubt... your "city kids" aren't indicative of the rest of the U.S. if the numbers on top 40 radio are any indication. Right now the number 1 song on Top 40 radio has an audience impression of 123 MILLION listeners.... I'm curious though since you doubt they would connect to radio using their phones, how are they connecting with Spotify, which is an internet based streaming site which has to be downloaded, unlike a radio station which can simply be streamed through their site. I guess I just don't get the need to pretend that radio isn't relevant simply to make it seem okay that Adam doesn't get good radio play, especially when it contradicts what the statistics show us. Radio play doesn't automatically mean sales but it certainly means people are aware of the music and can buy it if they like it. The difference in sales between FYE and Trespassing simply boils down to radio play and nothing more. If Adam had gotten a song to hit on radio his sales would have been at least double/triple what they are now. The most important thing for an artist is to reach the casual fans or people who have never heard of you and to do that an artist needs radio, whether that's internet based radio such as pandora or sirus or traditional radio. Q3 comment -- do not put words in peoples' mouths. "I guess I just don't get the need to pretend that radio isn't relevant simply to make it seem okay that Adam doesn't get good radio play..." may represent your opinion but do not place it on other people. MY COMMENT IT NOT OPEN FOR DISCUSSION IN THIS THREAD. If you have an issue with my comment send me a PM. |
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Post by melliemom on Feb 24, 2013 12:52:24 GMT -5
I am sure there is a huge audience for radio, especially in the "car culture" - which is most of the US... however, with my "city kids" I see no radio listening among young people AT ALL, it is mostly streaming (Spotify is HUGE), and using playlists on their own devices (the question of HOW these are populated is a different story)... I can't even think of a way for them to "connect" to a radio station, unless they would do so from their phone - which I highly doubt... your "city kids" aren't indicative of the rest of the U.S. if the numbers on top 40 radio are any indication. Right now the number 1 song on Top 40 radio has an audience impression of 123 MILLION listeners.... I'm curious though since you doubt they would connect to radio using their phones, how are they connecting with Spotify, which is an internet based streaming site which has to be downloaded, unlike a radio station which can simply be streamed through their site. I guess I just don't get the need to pretend that radio isn't relevant simply to make it seem okay that Adam doesn't get good radio play, especially when it contradicts what the statistics show us. Radio play doesn't automatically mean sales but it certainly means people are aware of the music and can buy it if they like it. The difference in sales between FYE and Trespassing simply boils down to radio play and nothing more. If Adam had gotten a song to hit on radio his sales would have been at least double/triple what they are now. The most important thing for an artist is to reach the casual fans or people who have never heard of you and to do that an artist needs radio, whether that's internet based radio such as pandora or sirus or traditional radio. Of course you're totally right,if you link all kinds of radio together. .. but we have been talking about two different things..I was only referring to traditional radio, i.e. ClearChannel ,top 40,etc.which is one aspect of way to be heard. Another aspect is Pandora Sirus , YouTube,etc. That's where many people are going.. I guess I should have been more clear .IMHO Some type of vehicle is necessary,pop artists need a way to be heard. I still like the idea of Adam being seen as well as heard and that would be TV.He is a very physical performer with a tremendous amount of sex appeal, can't experience that from the air waves.. Videos sure help..Personally, in the end ,I don't care how Adam reaches people,as long as the world gets to experience him. |
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Post by mayumi on Feb 24, 2013 13:04:43 GMT -5
First time posting in this new format. Hope I don't mess it up.
RL has been quite crazy since Christmas. Thank you so much for all the good wishes and prayers. If I have not answered your PMs it's because I did not want to but just could not find time to do it. My DH is back in the hospital today, the third time in 2 months so please continue praying. I miss Adam so and of course Adamtopia but his health is my top priority right now.
Sorry to harsh your mellow on this beautiful mini tour but i know so many have been asking. Love to all.
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Post by melliemom on Feb 24, 2013 13:07:48 GMT -5
First time posting in this new format. Hope I don't mess it up. RL has been quite crazy since Christmas. Thank you so much for all the good wishes and prayers. If I have not answered your PMs it's because I did not want to but just could not find time to do it. My DH is back in the hospital today, the third time in 2 months so please continue praying. I miss Adam so and of course Adamtopia but his health is my top priority right now. Sorry to harsh your mellow on this beautiful mini tour but i know so many have been asking. Love to all. So sorry about your DH.. I hope this time is the charm and he gets well really soon.. Lots of positive vibes going to you both.. |
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Post by houselady on Feb 24, 2013 13:25:39 GMT -5
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Post by nica575 on Feb 24, 2013 13:40:38 GMT -5
I am sure there is a huge audience for radio, especially in the "car culture" - which is most of the US... however, with my "city kids" I see no radio listening among young people AT ALL, it is mostly streaming (Spotify is HUGE), and using playlists on their own devices (the question of HOW these are populated is a different story)... I can't even think of a way for them to "connect" to a radio station, unless they would do so from their phone - which I highly doubt... your "city kids" aren't indicative of the rest of the U.S. if the numbers on top 40 radio are any indication. Right now the number 1 song on Top 40 radio has an audience impression of 123 MILLION listeners.... I'm curious though since you doubt they would connect to radio using their phones, how are they connecting with Spotify, which is an internet based streaming site which has to be downloaded, unlike a radio station which can simply be streamed through their site. I guess I just don't get the need to pretend that radio isn't relevant simply to make it seem okay that Adam doesn't get good radio play, especially when it contradicts what the statistics show us. Radio play doesn't automatically mean sales but it certainly means people are aware of the music and can buy it if they like it. The difference in sales between FYE and Trespassing simply boils down to radio play and nothing more. If Adam had gotten a song to hit on radio his sales would have been at least double/triple what they are now. The most important thing for an artist is to reach the casual fans or people who have never heard of you and to do that an artist needs radio, whether that's internet based radio such as pandora or sirus or traditional radio. I agree with everything you said. We are not "indicative", we are a strange bubble as compared to the rest of the country...but I DO live in the small world where radio does not really exist. I am far from pretending that radio does not count, in the last four years I learned that it does :D, at least for now. My kids have Spotify loaded on their phones and laptops (around $10/month) - this way there is no "stealing" and they have access to anything they want. As far as I can see - they find out about music by the modern "word of mouth", i.e. social media means, including sharing of music info on Spotify, FB, etc... Adam DOES need radio, there is no way around it for now. He also needs TV. IMO, he has a better chance getting on TV than being played by the mass radio. mayumi - stay strong! best wishes! |
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Post by ayleim on Feb 24, 2013 13:45:09 GMT -5
I really, really need to get to bed. But I just have to say that FYE this time made me gulp a few times along the way. Me likes this version a lot. Really hope he isn't only going to perform it in Japan because it was big there, and switch it out for the later concerts! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2013 13:51:16 GMT -5
Thank you, Houselady! You have added such tremendous contributions to the WAG tour...I've been watching you weave your magic! Huge thanks also to Seoulmate and Aleks for today's photos. Fantastic! Belle's been cranking as have so many others..if I've missed you, please know I have enjoyed everything! (If I kept on, I'd be in contention with Julia Roberts Oscars' acceptance speech..  )  |
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Post by Q3 on Feb 24, 2013 14:24:14 GMT -5
Mayumi -- my prayers are with you guys. **** On the topic of radio.....the audience is large and up in 2012 from 2011. "In addition to increasing its audience of persons aged 12 and older, young radio listeners also increased slightly with persons aged 12 to 17 at 22.8 million weekly listeners. Adults aged 18 to 34 showed the largest increase year over year, adding 845,000 weekly radio listeners. Adults aged 18 to 49 and Adults aged 25-54 showed year over year declines in weekly radio listening. Radio attracts 126.3 million adults aged 18 to 49 and 119.9 million adults aged 25 to 54 on a weekly basis." Link: arbitron.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=822 BUT the growth in radio listeners is NOT in people who are likely to be Adam fans -- +1.8 million Spanish-language listeners and increase in black listeners to urban radio formats. Adam's core market is "Adult Pop" -- and that is down on radio but still large. Impressions on Pop radio often sound impressive, but you also need to look at reach -- and CHR/Pop radio reaches only about 5% of US adults. So a song with 123 million impressions might reach 10 million unique people, with an average frequency of 12.3 exposures to the song. ** Where do hits come from? -- some come from radio airplay,like Bruno Mars. But many big hits have come from the Internet. From Justin Bieber to Harlem Shake and Gangman Style to Thrift Shop -- a lot of stars and hits are being created on the Internet, not by radio. And TV and Movies have been responsible for many stars and hits. We do not get Kelly Clarkson or songs like fun's "We Are Young" without TV. And would radio stations have ever played "Skyfall" if it was not in a movie? Radio is an important push media for music discovery. But it is not the only path. |
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