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Post by lambo on May 26, 2012 11:12:22 GMT -5
Bringing this over! 4:21 Thanks glampoon, but I cannot read this.. could you please translate them in words?? Thank you Translation: The first twelve notes (dots) are about as high as most pop guys can sing, and that might be sounding a bit strained. It is also about as long a musical phrase as they could sustain on one breath. The fifteenth note (Eb5) would have most female alto singers straining to hit. Or most untrained females singers, period. Guys would have fallen out before that. The sixteenth and seventeenth notes that are above all the horizontal lines ---- stratosphere for females, unheard of in full voice for males (except Adam Fuckin' Lambert) The white note at the beginning of the second line represents a note held longer. That's where really good singers would have run out of breath and had to stop the riff. Not Adam Lambert. He keeps going. As impressive as this run looks on paper and sounds live, it is less than half of Adam's total range from low note to high note. Does that help at all? No? Okay, condensed version: A highly trained female opera singer would be proud to perform that phrase in one breath. cassie's take on this amazing Broken English run from Wilkes-Barre. Totally effortless vocal gymnastics over 17 seconds without a breath! Top note is A♭5
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Post by cassie on May 26, 2012 11:26:54 GMT -5
Bringing this over! 4:21 Translation: The first twelve notes (dots) are about as high as most pop guys can sing, and that might be sounding a bit strained. It is also about as long a musical phrase as they could sustain on one breath. The fifteenth note (Eb5) would have most female alto singers straining to hit. Or most untrained females singers, period. Guys would have fallen out before that. The sixteenth and seventeenth notes that are above all the horizontal lines ---- stratosphere for females, unheard of in full voice for males (except Adam Fuckin' Lambert) The white note at the beginning of the second line represents a note held longer. That's where really good singers would have run out of breath and had to stop the riff. Not Adam Lambert. He keeps going. As impressive as this run looks on paper and sounds live, it is less than half of Adam's total range from low note to high note. Does that help at all? No? Okay, condensed version: A highly trained female opera singer would be proud to perform that phrase in one breath. cassie's take on this amazing Broken English run from Wilkes-Barre. Totally effortless vocal gymnastics over 17 seconds without a breath! Top note is A♭5 nationalglampoon: You beat me to it! I was just coming here to post your notation. Thanks so much for doing this. For someone who reads music well, they could, in theory, follow these notes and reproduce the phrase and the run. I say "in theory" because, while they would know what notes to sing, if they were male they almost certainly couldn't actually sing them. Play them on the keyboard or guitar? Yes. Sing? Nope. No way.
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Post by lambo on May 26, 2012 11:33:22 GMT -5
Even if I were to do that down an octave, I still wouldn't be able to get around the things like the descending sequences, big interval jumps, long notes, the effortless flipping between mixed voice and head voice and I certainly wouldn't be able to do it all in one breath! I can write out some others if you like, I think it's quite an interesting way of analysing the impossible things Adam does
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Post by cassie on May 26, 2012 12:46:57 GMT -5
Even if I were to do that down an octave, I still wouldn't be able to get around the things like the descending sequences, big interval jumps, long notes, the effortless flipping between mixed voice and head voice and I certainly wouldn't be able to do it all in one breath! I can write out some others if you like, I think it's quite an interesting way of analysing the impossible things Adam does Since you are the tech magician musician, is it possible to just rip that run away from the backing? So we can listen to only that and try to sing along? Then, we will feel how wicked hard it is. And, yes, I would love to seem some other passages written out, if you have them. What a wonderful resource you are.
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Post by Coconutgrove0 on May 27, 2012 14:15:26 GMT -5
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Post by lambo on May 27, 2012 16:43:24 GMT -5
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Post by rihannsu on May 28, 2012 8:07:38 GMT -5
Cassie - I've been thinking about the new arrangement for WWFM that Adam has been doing at these shows. From the very first time I heard it my impression was that of a "stately procession" in that it has a much more measured rhythm to it. But what I noticed most of all was that the pacing is perfect for the audience sing a long. The crowds have been singing along to WWFM for a long time but the mass voices as a whole rarely matched the pacing of the song in the past so it seems to me as if they rearranged the song to match the pacing of an auditorium full of people trying to sing it. In the past the audience sing a longs often clashed with and sometimes even overpowered Adam but now it seems in perfect tune. I think that arrangement almost certainly had to have been created to incorporate the audience because he knows by now that the audience will sing it. Also I love the way it seems that the audience participation in Naked Love was written in to the track in the creation of it. Kind of like the way Brian May said they wrote We Will Rock You with the audience sing a long in mind.
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Post by cassie on May 28, 2012 10:57:34 GMT -5
Cool. Do you take requests? I would love it if you could do something like this with Underneath. The beginning verse is already very stripped back, but later, when he sings "red river of screams" there is a lot of electronics and instruments. I suspect they are covering up some of the drama and finesse in his vocal interpretation. If it is not asking for too much work, I'd love to hear you bring out the voice on that one in parts. Pretty pleez?
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Post by lambo on May 28, 2012 11:00:33 GMT -5
I could try, it's much easier when there's an instrumental available though. I hope we get some master tracks some day so we can hear his voice isolated and clear as day! Also, bringing this over: Following a suggestion by cassie, I did an autotune demo of Adam's voice which she thinks you'll all get a kick out of picosong.com/wfps/Included not-autotuned versions too. You can hear how the autotune just doesn't know what to do with all the little nuances Adam puts in there while singing, like little grace notes, vibrato, the short runs, and the switches up into head voice. All the singers who really rely on it have to sing without any of these nuances, kind of robotic like, for the autotune to work, but they really bring the melodies to life as Adam always shows so masterfully! Oh and fun fact, I had to set the autotune level to "heavy" before I even got a result! And these were just spur of the moment acapellas! Can't think of many other singers who can break an autotune machine!
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Post by lambo on May 31, 2012 9:17:04 GMT -5
[soundcloud]http://soundcloud.com/nationalglampoon/nirvana-backing-vox[/soundcloud] Check out these low harmonies from Nirvana a bit clearer! Lots of B2's by Adam
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