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Post by 4Ms on Apr 2, 2015 7:11:00 GMT -5
Neil Gaimnan posted this on his Tumbrl like 2 years ago: "I was reading a book (about interjections, oddly enough) yesterday which included the phrase “In these days of political correctness…” talking about no longer making jokes that denigrated people for their culture or for the colour of their skin. And I thought, “That’s not actually anything to do with ‘political correctness’. That’s just treating other people with respect.” Which made me oddly happy. I started imagining a world in which we replaced the phrase “politically correct” wherever we could with “treating other people with respect”, and it made me smile. You should try it. It’s peculiarly enlightening. I know what you’re thinking now. You’re thinking “Oh my god, that’s treating other people with respect gone mad!” IMHO this is really simple. It's good to look at the problem from another angle. I can't think of an example at the moment, but I'm quite certain it's possible to find an extreme use of treating other people with respect. Most of us would agree that one should tell the truth, but there times when the truth would be unkind, inappropriate, or dangerous.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2015 8:03:20 GMT -5
Neil Gaimnan posted this on his Tumbrl like 2 years ago: "I was reading a book (about interjections, oddly enough) yesterday which included the phrase “In these days of political correctness…” talking about no longer making jokes that denigrated people for their culture or for the colour of their skin. And I thought, “That’s not actually anything to do with ‘political correctness’. That’s just treating other people with respect.” Which made me oddly happy. I started imagining a world in which we replaced the phrase “politically correct” wherever we could with “treating other people with respect”, and it made me smile. You should try it. It’s peculiarly enlightening. I know what you’re thinking now. You’re thinking “Oh my god, that’s treating other people with respect gone mad!” IMHO this is really simple. Yes, Neil pretty much sums it up for me.
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Post by AnnAdoresAdam on Apr 2, 2015 9:07:44 GMT -5
Maybe the pendulum has swung back the other way a bit in the meantime but when PC-ness was being introduced into the UK about 20 years ago I remember a friend telling me that in the company she worked for they were no longer allowed to ask for black coffee, rather coffee without milk. Against the background of this environment, when a visitor to my friend's office asked her to direct him to "Jane Doe", (who happened to be the only black woman among the half dozen women in the office), my friend was too intimidated to say the obvious "it's the black lady over there", but instead pointed her out by what she was wearing. She said at the time, had it been a white woman she needed to point out, she'd have had no hesitation in saying "it's the lady with the red hair" or some other physical characteristic.
Hopefully things have settled down a bit now but I think those examples have little to do with treating others with respect (common decency) and more about a culture of fear of saying or doing the wrong thing. And to me, that's the downside of political correctness.
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Post by thelambertluvva on Apr 2, 2015 9:09:15 GMT -5
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Post by mireille on Apr 2, 2015 9:15:19 GMT -5
They could have just skipped every show and go straight to the finale, it is soooo clear Adam would win (but didn't.... ;o(
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2015 9:52:08 GMT -5
I always thought Trespassing was supposed to be more "real" and not particularly PC, and maybe "darker" in terms of showing who Adam really was and what he thought/felt. You know.... like the BTIKM video, showing two sides, the light and dark. But maybe it wasn't real and TOH is real. Who knows. Trespassing was written over 4 years ago and released 3 years ago. That album was the real Adam back then and reflected his truth in that moment. Now, he's older, wiser, more confident and telling his truth in a new way. Less guarded, maybe with less innuendo and with more up front directness, hence the "not so pc" comment.
dissecting every comment looking for reasons to doubt what he's saying or wondering if he meant what he said then v. now takes all the fun out of the ramp up for this new era IMO.
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Post by abriton on Apr 2, 2015 9:52:12 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2015 9:56:14 GMT -5
I always thought Trespassing was supposed to be more "real" and not particularly PC, and maybe "darker" in terms of showing who Adam really was and what he thought/felt. You know.... like the BTIKM video, showing two sides, the light and dark. But maybe it wasn't real and TOH is real. Who knows. Trespassing was written over 4 years ago and released 3 years ago. That album was the real Adam back then and reflected his truth in that moment. Now, he's older, wiser, more confident and telling his truth in a new way. Less guarded, maybe with less innuendo and with more up front directness, hence the "not so pc" comment.
dissecting every comment looking for reasons to doubt what he's saying or wondering if he meant what he said then v. now takes all the fun out of the ramp up for this new era IMO.
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Post by murly on Apr 2, 2015 10:16:17 GMT -5
Neil Gaimnan posted this on his Tumbrl like 2 years ago: "I was reading a book (about interjections, oddly enough) yesterday which included the phrase “In these days of political correctness…” talking about no longer making jokes that denigrated people for their culture or for the colour of their skin. And I thought, “That’s not actually anything to do with ‘political correctness’. That’s just treating other people with respect.” Which made me oddly happy. I started imagining a world in which we replaced the phrase “politically correct” wherever we could with “treating other people with respect”, and it made me smile. You should try it. It’s peculiarly enlightening. I know what you’re thinking now. You’re thinking “Oh my god, that’s treating other people with respect gone mad!” IMHO this is really simple. I love this. I certainly have seen so-called political correctness go too far, but more often I've seen bigots use the term derisively to defend their intolerance of anyone who is different. They'll make a racist or sexist or homophobic comment, and then when someone expresses anger over it, they'll sneer, "Oh, sorry. I guess I wasn't being politically correct" as if the person who objected to their bigotry is just being thin-skinned. Each case has to be decided on its own merits as to whether or not it's silly. To my mind, constantly coming up with new terms like "vertically challenged" because we mustn't admit anyone is short is ridiculous--I'm short, and see nothing wrong with it so I don't require a euphemism. But some things that would be considered "politically correct" are also morally and legally correct, and while it can be hard to know the difference, I hate seeing the term "politically correct" used dismissively. If nothing else, it should inspire careful consideration of how we treat and talk about our fellow human beings.
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Post by adamrocks on Apr 2, 2015 10:25:47 GMT -5
Good morning. Kamar #GhostTown @kamarmezher96 2m2 minutes ago "@listoffsay: " AMAZING @adamlambert has to see it !
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