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Post by crazyoldgal on Sept 8, 2015 10:03:36 GMT -5
Ok numbers guru's
what is so important for top 20 other than bragging rights for GT??? IMO. Although AI has increased significantly, sales have not been overwhelming. No where near 100 for album sales. Yes a peak in 80's for single but not nearly high enough
shouldn't the 2nd single be released. We need to pump in vigor for this album and the 2nd might do it.
And if if so when might be the release date for the next single
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2015 10:14:31 GMT -5
Ok numbers guru's what is so important for top 20 other than bragging rights for GT??? IMO. Although AI has increased significantly, sales have not been overwhelming. No where near 100 for album sales. Yes a peak in 80's for single but not nearly high enough shouldn't the 2nd single be released. We need to pump in vigor for this album and the 2nd might do it. And if if so when might be the release date for the next single You don't abandon a single that is still going up! I expect ALN within the next 4 weeks. Late, late Sept. of early October.
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Post by nica575 on Sept 8, 2015 10:28:38 GMT -5
Ok numbers guru's what is so important for top 20 other than bragging rights for GT??? IMO. Although AI has increased significantly, sales have not been overwhelming. No where near 100 for album sales. Yes a peak in 80's for single but not nearly high enough shouldn't the 2nd single be released. We need to pump in vigor for this album and the 2nd might do it. And if if so when might be the release date for the next single From reading here I got a feeling that once a song is in top 20 some radio stations are inclined to spin more... Other than that I see no difference between say #19 and #21... top 10 is a different matter of course... re album sales - I remember Q3 saying that you need more than one single to be successful for an album sales to pick up...so, ya, lets hope all the next singles are a great success!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2015 10:33:09 GMT -5
Ok numbers guru's what is so important for top 20 other than bragging rights for GT??? IMO. Although AI has increased significantly, sales have not been overwhelming. No where near 100 for album sales. Yes a peak in 80's for single but not nearly high enough shouldn't the 2nd single be released. We need to pump in vigor for this album and the 2nd might do it. And if if so when might be the release date for the next single Good question! Right now the dropping songs are not the problem. They are dropping BIG! The problem is that the Top 3 songs are sucking up so many spins, can the rising songs below the dropping songs pick up enough spins to knock them out! Ready for some math? I took today's -spins for each dropping song & used that as a possible scenario for the next 5 days & subtracted. So, by Sunday, the possible spin count for these songs could be: Skrillex 7328Derulo 4316 FloRida 4226 Zedd 5372 *********** Now, the possible Sunday counts for songs that need to knock Skrillex out of top 10, using today's increase: Beiber 7650 1D 7849 Swift 7355 Weeknd 8261 ^^ So, there is a good probability that Skrillex WILL go recurrent this Sunday. I also took GT's numbers for today and added a modest 20 spins for the next 5 days and got 4115. So, using those numbers, looks like the only chance for a move back to 23 will be Skrillex's recurrency. That being said, dropping songs usually accelerate when they get to a certain negative. So, still a chance Flo and Derulo can increase their drop. IMO, we will know bby Thursday. Too much information, huh?!
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Post by nica575 on Sept 8, 2015 10:42:54 GMT -5
Ok numbers guru's what is so important for top 20 other than bragging rights for GT??? IMO. Although AI has increased significantly, sales have not been overwhelming. No where near 100 for album sales. Yes a peak in 80's for single but not nearly high enough shouldn't the 2nd single be released. We need to pump in vigor for this album and the 2nd might do it. And if if so when might be the release date for the next single Good question! Right now the dropping songs are not the problem. They are dropping BIG! The problem is that the Top 3 songs are sucking up so many spins, can the rising songs below the dropping songs pick up enough spins to knock them out! Ready for some math? I took today's -spins for each dropping song & used that as a possible scenario for the next 5 days & subtracted. So, by Sunday, the possible spin count for these songs could be: Skrillex 7328Derulo 4316 FloRida 4226 Zedd 5372 *********** Now, the possible Sunday counts for songs that need to knock Skrillex out of top 10, using today's increase: Beiber 7650 1D 7849 Swift 7355 Weeknd 8261 ^^ So, there is a good probability that Skrillex WILL go recurrent this Sunday. I also took GT's numbers for today and added a modest 20 spins for the next 5 days and got 4115. So, using those numbers, looks like the only chance for a move back to 23 will be Skrillex's recurrency. That being said, dropping songs usually accelerate when they get to a certain negative. So, still a chance Flo and Derulo can increase their drop. IMO, we will know bby Thursday. Too much information, huh?! no, not too much - this is exactly what I do when trying to form my own outlook, and that's why "historically" I could never see the "top 20" predictions floated here UNTIL now, when I can actually "calculate" #20 in two weeks at the earliest if all goes well... In general the modest +20 daily increase is not viable for getting anywhere high imo...Nick Jonas is getting nice 3 digit increases again...he could pass within 2 weeks
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2015 10:50:28 GMT -5
True, about Jonas, but there is also talk that the label is not happy with this single and might actually pull it & switch! So who knows. But even if he passes, the other drops should help the GT cause in two weeks! (But GT has to hang in there)
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Post by rihannsu on Sept 8, 2015 16:29:14 GMT -5
both POP and HAC charts are looking pretty good! so far, all as expected! TS will pass GT tomorrow on HAC, so be ready to see #18 again, but Wiz will drop below #10 and go recurrent on Sunday, so GT will get the #17 back. A week later same will happen to Grammer, so we'll see GT at #16... Where are you getting the info that Wiz will go recurrent on HAC? It's not listed as potential recurrent anywhere that I find. Grammer is due to go out once it drops below #10 but there is nothing in the chart notes about Wiz' song.
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Post by nica575 on Sept 8, 2015 16:58:41 GMT -5
both POP and HAC charts are looking pretty good! so far, all as expected! TS will pass GT tomorrow on HAC, so be ready to see #18 again, but Wiz will drop below #10 and go recurrent on Sunday, so GT will get the #17 back. A week later same will happen to Grammer, so we'll see GT at #16... Where are you getting the info that Wiz will go recurrent on HAC? It's not listed as potential recurrent anywhere that I find. Grammer is due to go out once it drops below #10 but there is nothing in the chart notes about Wiz' song. I am under the impression that a song goes recurrent after 20 weeks on the charts. I see Wiz was on for 135 days, 140 days will be passed by the coming Sunday. If I'm wrong and that is not the rule for recurrency then I'm taking my prediction back.
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Post by rihannsu on Sept 8, 2015 18:06:50 GMT -5
Where are you getting the info that Wiz will go recurrent on HAC? It's not listed as potential recurrent anywhere that I find. Grammer is due to go out once it drops below #10 but there is nothing in the chart notes about Wiz' song. I am under the impression that a song goes recurrent after 20 weeks on the charts. I see Wiz was on for 135 days, 140 days will be passed by the coming Sunday. If I'm wrong and that is not the rule for recurrency then I'm taking my prediction back. If you are looking at Kworb the problem is that it has to be 20 weeks in top 40 and Kworb's figures are how many days in the top 50 I think so that is not exact. That's why I asked because I was trying to figure out if you had a different source for your info.
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Post by rihannsu on Sept 8, 2015 18:10:41 GMT -5
Adam Lambert Worldwide iTunes Performance | Last update: 2015-09-08 19:05:09 EDT | Back to list
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Ghost Town #5 Luxembourg #6 Estonia #7 Poland #10 Slovakia #12 Austria #13 Namibia #14 Finland #17 Australia #17 Germany #20 Netherlands #27 Russia #29 Denmark #29 Mexico #30 Czech Republic #32 Sri Lanka #35 South Africa #36 Argentina #37 Portugal #37 Ukraine #39 Sweden #55 New Zealand #59 Canada #64 Vietnam #68 United Arab Emirates #83 Lithuania #94 Lebanon #101 Latvia #102 India #106 United States #34 Pop #120 Brazil #134 Norway #138 Estonia #142 Turkey #169 Switzerland #423 United States (clean) #106 Pop
#145 Music Video #68 Pop
Another Lonely Night #46 Poland #128 United Arab Emirates #144 South Africa
Whataya Want from Me #49 Bahrain
Album: The Original High #22 New Zealand #71 South Africa #100 Australia #105 Ukraine #159 Poland #634 United States #78 Pop
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