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Post by willowgarden on Jun 1, 2011 22:10:49 GMT -5
So far behind! I love this video but there's a little nagging feeling in me that these two should not have gone into his trailer. I hope that was her makeup she was putting on herself and not Adam's.
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Post by wonderstruck on Jun 1, 2011 22:11:29 GMT -5
so you believe that Adam will never get played without the help of a more established and bigger artist... I'm gonna believe that he can and he will with the right songs. NO. I didn't say that. You are putting words in my mouth. sorry if that's not what you meant. Do you think he can get played on KIIS without a bigger more established artist on a song with him? Personally I don't want Adam relying on someone else's cred to get played. I'd rather he get played on his own merits and have a little less success than get one major hit off someone else's involvement and then everyone give credit to that other person for his biggest hit. Now when he gets a smash on his own then hell yes collaborate with anyone and everyone. But first I want him to make his mark with his own voice. I want him to have a SUBG level smash hit off this sophmore album and I know he can do it!!
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Post by nica575 on Jun 1, 2011 22:13:45 GMT -5
I had to leave the board and missed the last 5 hours of this interesting conversation...so now, it is difficult to even decide where to pick up.. Chunkey - yes, compared to you I am old, your parent's generation, which does not matter in my case, I am very atypical for any age, as I perceive only classical music and singing as "REAL" music, everything else is "background" - great for dancing, jogging, vacuuming...whatever, but I would never ACTIVELY LISTEN to anything but classical and now ADAM. For me "listening" is sitting down, preferably with my eyes closed (impossible in Adam's case ) and absorbing EVERY sound. ( and it was like this when I was your age, and even much younger than that SO, this is where I come from. I am making a great effort to listen to other stuff lately - but I am having a very, very hard time understanding what "sells"..I actually found that the more I dislike a song - the more popular it is... for instance IMO WWFM is the weakest, the most boring song on FYE, yet it is a hit... I also found that the songs Adam co-wrote on the FYE are the best for me, BO being the absolute best - from the haunting music to the deep message... I agree with everyone that Adam wants to be a star, to appeal to as wide audience as possible - hence we hear his "you'll get five WWFM like songs" on #2... meaning that he is very much into what "sold" and he is there to please with more... I also trust him completely, and I believe that IF HE CO-WRITES - I will love it because he has the profound depth and he will not produce anything beneath his own standard. I have no idea if it will be "good enough" for the radio in the US. I think it is all about business, not about the music at all. I also think that his name is slowly becoming a part of the "culture" and as such he will get played. We will see! (I also think that the fact that he got so unexpectedly invited to the Maxidrom festival is only the beginning - it is the sign of things to come).
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Post by Q3 on Jun 1, 2011 22:13:46 GMT -5
Wonder why KIIS is more urban than NYC or Philly? That doesn't compute with me. As a matter of fact, with the city demographics, I would think LA would be the least urban of those 3. I think if the PDs played Adam in LA, his music would get requested and get purchased. 1 1 Up this week ADELE Rolling In The Deep 105 104 1 4.8234 2 2 PITBULL Give Me Everything f/Ne-Yo 103 103 0 4.6923 4 3 Up this week BLACK EYED PEAS Just Can't Get Enough 102 99 3 4.6067 3 4 KATY PERRY E.T. 98 101 -3 4.4096 6 5 Up this week LMFAO Party Rock Anthem 84 49 35 3.4145 5 6 BRITNEY SPEARS Till The World Ends 62 89 -27 3.3324 8 7 Up this week JEREMIH Down On Me f/50 Cent 50 45 5 2.3531 9 8 Up this week LUPE FIASCO The Show Goes On 45 44 1 2.1022 16 9 Up this week JENNIFER LOPEZ I'm Into You f/Lil Wayne 43 30 13 1.8157 10 10 SELENA GOMEZ & THE SCENE Who Says 42 44 -2 1.89 17 11 Up this week BRUNO MARS Lazy Song 42 30 12 2.0406 12 12 RIHANNA S&M 42 42 0 1.9717 35 13 Up this week PINK F**kin' Perfect (Perfect) 40 14 26 1.9909 7 14 JENNIFER LOPEZ F/PITBULL On The Floor 38 49 -11 1.7175 19 15 Up this week NICOLE SCHERZINGER Right There 32 27 5 1.326 34 16 Up this week TAYLOR SWIFT The Story Of Us 30 15 15 1.2618 20 17 Up this week JASON DERULO Don't Wanna Go Home 27 26 1 1.1378 11 18 NEW BOYZ Back Seat f/Cataracs & Dev 27 42 -15 1.3348 13 19 DR. DRE I Need A Doctor f/Eminem 26 41 -15 1.1072 27 20 Up this week ENRIQUE IGLESIAS Dirty Dancer f/Usher/Lil Wayne 26 18 8 1.128 All the songs I highlighted above are pretty close to IIHY and several are not as good, IMO. Sorry, but KIIS could play Adam if the PD wanted to. His music would fit in with this stuff very easily. I do not agree.Adele is/was #1 in the US and a lot of the world. IIHY was never that big a hit. RITD is a gorgeous, soulful song. Incomparable to the Max Martin confection otherwise known as IIHY. I am comparing the songs, production and beat tracks -- not the quality of the vocal performance. Example -- look at where they were on the radio chart when KIIS added them. Even ET with is a Hip Hop fusion song with Kanye on it (suits there format), was added on 3/1/11 when ET entered the Top 30. And it was a follow up to Katy Perry's 3 previous consecutive #1 hits. KIIS does not add songs because the PD "likes" them, they add the most popular songs in the country that they believe will appeal to their target audience 15 - 29 year olds in LA. They do a lot of research. It may be hard for some Adam fans to accept but people love Firework and California Gurls and Kesha. This is entertainment, not a vocal competition. I am really optimistic that Adam's next album will have better material on it, and it will have music that expresses who Adam is as a artist. I do not want him doing a collaboration with Pitbull because it would get airplay -- I'll leave that to J.Lo. And I do not want Adam to compromise just to get on KIIS FM. Los Angeles is an unusual market. Demographically it does not look like anyplace else in the US. Adam can be successful without KIIS -- but he can't be successful if he doesn't believe in and is not proud of the music he puts out. Radio matters but it is not everything. PS Gaga is setting sales records all over the world and is not getting much support on KIIS. ETA: There is not central playlist for the US. There is huge variety about what is played in different markets and formats. HAC = Hot Adult Contemporary. It is a format designed for women 25-49 years old. It used to be ruled by Idol-type pop but has shifted more urban contemporary over the past few years. It is the #1 music format in Canada, #2 in the US. Many US Top 40 stations are considered HAC-leaning -- mostly in the East and Southeast.
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Post by momtomany on Jun 1, 2011 22:14:22 GMT -5
NO. I didn't say that. You are putting words in my mouth. sorry if that's not what you meant. Do you think he can get played on KIIS without a bigger more established artist on a song with him? Personally I don't want Adam relying on someone else's cred to get played. I'd rather he get played on his own merits and have a little less success than get one major hit off someone else's involvement and then everyone give credit to that other person for his biggest hit. Now when he gets a smash on his own then hell yes collaborate with anyone and everyone. But first I want him to make his mark with his own voice. I want him to have a SUBG level smash hit off this sophmore album and I know he can do it!! He will, he will , he will! I bet the barn on it!
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Post by kapsiz on Jun 1, 2011 22:15:02 GMT -5
Nothing to contribute - so feel free to scroll on by! Boy - I am of two minds here. In more than two ways. I would love to hear Adam with Eminem; but, really, I can hardly think of another collaboration that would blow me away. I prefer just Adam. I don't need anything, or anyone else. To quote Cassie, ". . . we are gathered here because we all resonate to Adam's singing voice". Oh, you are so right! It is like the address on the envelope. There is so much more inside. Through Adam I'm learning to stop questioning - and just do it. At 3AM last Saturday morning, only the light of this little computer bathed me. I was in the dark, defined only by the small light from the screen as I searched the 'Moscow thread'. My past experience shows not much has awakened me at 3AM; other than sex, a trip involving an early plane flight, an eclipse, snow falling in the middle of the night, or a baby's birth. My husband found me, and put a blanket over my shoulders to keep me warm. And loved. I've changed. I'm here because I feel I'm amongst people who have also felt a transformation at their very core. Hearing Adam's voice - the clear, gorgeous plea, the joy, the anger, the honesty, the playfulness, the eros - implores me to try to create a song in my life that can be that genuine. Thank you to all Topians who can do the math. Because, when it comes to Adam I can't compute. Is it strange to feel such friendship on a fan site? I'm hoping that he and Sauli are "intertwined, quiet"; together in London. Just as I hope my own children are embraced, tonight, by those they love. See, I really have nothing to say. Just have something to feel. I'm so grateful to have this place; learn about all of you I may never meet - as soulmates (we should all be lucky to have a seoulmate!) who share the fascination "that turned to love". aahhhhh ~ momtomany
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Post by wal on Jun 1, 2011 22:16:03 GMT -5
Cam had a twitter party earlier, she answered an Adam question:
P0NDWATER Emilee pondwater @uhhuhhermusic does Adam have a belly button? 1 hour ago
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@uhhuhhermusic U H H @p0ndwater It's the most amazing belly button I've ever seen. Really gorgeous. 45 minutes ago
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Post by aloha on Jun 1, 2011 22:16:06 GMT -5
I want whatever Adam wants. There could be many reasons he might decide to do a collab-- for the challenge, for the chance to work with an artist he admires, for the musical variety..... for the FUN!
If he does, I really think there is no chance in hell the other artist will get all the credit... I think it'll show Adam plays in a very elite sandbox.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2011 22:17:46 GMT -5
IMO, WWFM was and is a big hit. It is appraoching 2Mil and has a great hook. Even people I know who are anti-Idol, love that song. Yet, KIIS hardly played it at all. My opinion is that the PD either has an Idol bias or an Adam bias. Those are guesses. I think it is probably important to Adam to get played on KIIS. It's the station he's been listening to for 9 years now. Bruno Mars started off with several duets, then went solo. If a good duet would get Adam played, I'm all for it. And IMO, there is no way anyone he duets with, could ever over shadow him. No way.... it would be impossible!
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Post by flyteplan on Jun 1, 2011 22:19:40 GMT -5
Nothing to contribute - so feel free to scroll on by! Boy - I am of two minds here. In more than two ways. I would love to hear Adam with Eminem; but, really, I can hardly think of another collaboration that would blow me away. I prefer just Adam. I don't need anything, or anyone else. To quote Cassie, ". . . we are gathered here because we all resonate to Adam's singing voice". Oh, you are so right! It is like the address on the envelope. There is so much more inside. Through Adam I'm learning to stop questioning - and just do it. At 3AM last Saturday morning, only the light of this little computer bathed me. I was in the dark, defined only by the small light from the screen as I searched the 'Moscow thread'. My past experience shows not much has awakened me at 3AM; other than sex, a trip involving an early plane flight, an eclipse, snow falling in the middle of the night, or a baby's birth. My husband found me, and put a blanket over my shoulders to keep me warm. And loved. I've changed. I'm here because I feel I'm amongst people who have also felt a transformation at their very core. Hearing Adam's voice - the clear, gorgeous plea, the joy, the anger, the honesty, the playfulness, the eros - implores me to try to create a song in my life that can be that genuine. Thank you to all Topians who can do the math. Because, when it comes to Adam I can't compute. Is it strange to feel such friendship on a fan site? I'm hoping that he and Sauli are "intertwined, quiet"; together in London. Just as I hope my own children are embraced, tonight, by those they love. See, I really have nothing to say. Just have something to feel. I'm so grateful to have this place; learn about all of you I may never meet - as soulmates (we should all be lucky to have a seoulmate!) who share the fascination "that turned to love". just wow,, and omfg,, i love this post you are amazing,, here i am having a very weird day,, you see i had to ,, yes had to let my beautiful 18 year old pussy cat go ,, a week and a half ago ,, today i see him every where, feel him every where and miss him ,, just miss him ,, he was always by my side ,, i have been rolling around in the maxidrom thread ,, watching videos and trying to get used to ,,, anyway,, i love your words ,, love how they feel when you put them altogether and love how they sound when i say them out loud,, thankyou ,,,
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