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Post by Q3 on Aug 23, 2016 11:41:45 GMT -5
bringing form yesterday's thread: Great find, I esp. loved the bit about a potential album... I think at the end of it, only you can be the judge. And at our stage in our career, which is obviously very late, we wouldn't expect to make a contemporary album now, because frankly I don't think we'd know how to. It's also a matter of expectation - people might expect something that they might not expect from a very contemporary band, so it's kind of doubly impossible. You couldn't make it avant-garde enough... it just wouldn't fit because it wouldn't be us, so it's very difficult. I think you just have to do things on your own terms. Does that also make it hard to consider recording a new Queen album then? There's regularly talk about whether you'll go into the studio with Adam.No, I think that we should actually, I don't know why we haven't got around to it. Of course Adam does have a fairly busy career on his own, but I think we should, but I don't think people should expect radically ground-breaking things, but I think we could make some very brilliant music with Adam and we should do. But no concrete plans at this point? No concrete plans, but I think we're just a bit too lazy really." --------------- IMO the conundrum they are facing is exactly that (in red) and they would probably have a difficult time finding common ground in writing with Adam UNLESS Adam is willing to do a throwback album. So I am not very optimistic on a full album tbh, but I think a single is quite possible - they could test the waters! I expect no new songs, new recordings under the Queen brand -- even with a plus AL. We will eventually get a Live QAL DVD release. Brian could do another guitar feature on Adam's next album but that is the only other new recording that seems likely to me. And even that doesn't seem destined to happen. |
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Post by csquared on Aug 23, 2016 12:20:11 GMT -5
bringing form yesterday's thread: "Does it get harder to recognise those better things or to continually feel that you've come up with something new?I think at the end of it, only you can be the judge. And at our stage in our career, which is obviously very late, we wouldn't expect to make a contemporary album now, because frankly I don't think we'd know how to. It's also a matter of expectation - people might expect something that they might not expect from a very contemporary band, so it's kind of doubly impossible. You couldn't make it avant-garde enough... it just wouldn't fit because it wouldn't be us, so it's very difficult. I think you just have to do things on your own terms. Does that also make it hard to consider recording a new Queen album then? There's regularly talk about whether you'll go into the studio with Adam.No, I think that we should actually, I don't know why we haven't got around to it. Of course Adam does have a fairly busy career on his own, but I think we should, but I don't think people should expect radically ground-breaking things, but I think we could make some very brilliant music with Adam and we should do. But no concrete plans at this point? No concrete plans, but I think we're just a bit too lazy really." --------------- IMO the conundrum they are facing is exactly that (in red) and they would probably have a difficult time finding common ground in writing with Adam UNLESS Adam is willing to do a throwback album. So I am not very optimistic on a full album tbh, but I think a single is quite possible - they could test the waters! I expect no new songs, new recordings under the Queen brand -- even with a plus AL. We will eventually get a Live QAL DVD release. Brian could do another guitar feature on Adam's next album but that is the only other new recording that seems likely to me. And even that doesn't seem destined to happen. I know I've asked this before... Does anyone know if this eventual live QAL DVD will be from when they filmed during the earlier tour (when they filmed in Sydney), or will they put something together with more recent performances? Adam was excellent early on, but he really seemed to get better and better as time went on. |
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Post by cassie on Aug 23, 2016 12:20:49 GMT -5
I expect no new songs, new recordings under the Queen brand -- even with a plus AL. We will eventually get a Live QAL DVD release. Brian could do another guitar feature on Adam's next album but that is the only other new recording that seems likely to me. And even that doesn't seem destined to happen. I would enjoy hearing new material by Queen + Adam, but I honestly don't see the upside for them. It would be unlikely to be a pop hit in today's market. Die hard Queen fans would probably balk at buying new music without Freddie singing. Adam's die hard fans would buy it, but we are not that huge an audience. Roger and Brian don't NEED to produce new revenue from recordings. From something I read Brian say about the Queen + Paul Rogers recording, I think they were disappointed in the response to it. I can't imagine they want to tarnish their legacy by producing new music that isn't widely embraced. I am still crossing my fingers for the Live DVD, but the recording is now two years old. I am wondering if it will ever make it out of the vault. |
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Post by LindaG23 on Aug 23, 2016 12:34:26 GMT -5
Yes that is an interesting article but for me, the two videos of Troye which are linked actually show the how much progress has been made. Sure, all genders are displayed in the videos and Troye never actually kisses his obvious love interest in Youth, but in both videos, the only person Troye is physically intimate with (meaning embracing, sexy eyes, etc.) is a guy. Hell, in Wild his boy love interest is actually videoing him in a bedroom with his shirt unbuttoned. Adam could not have made videos like these when he began in pop music. I would say the videos are not really erotic but I don't feel they have to be in order to genuinely represent gay attraction and experience. Troye is not what I would call sexy/sultry and is still young enough to have a real innocent quality about him and that's OK. I don't expect an Adele video to be as erotic as a Rihanna video, for example. That the writer wants a gay male Rihanna style pop star to break into Top 40 pop music is a valid wish. But the gay market, simply from a demographic standpoint, is much smaller and might not support a hyper-sexualized gay star. In reality, straight men (and maybe gay women) probably watch a Rihanna video and imagine themselves there (a guy in the video would just get in the way of their fantasy) and a gay man probably watches a Nick Jonas video and imagines the same thing. Anyway, the writer of the article wants to push boundaries and that is great, but progress has been made. PS: I did enjoy the music. |
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Post by adamrocks on Aug 23, 2016 12:37:04 GMT -5
Not sure if we knew this already: GC @geriperi Look! @adamlambert is appearing in this documentary!  Good morning/afternoon. ADAM LAMBERT DAILY @adaml_Daily 5h5 hours ago INFO|@adamlambert will be featured on the LGBTQIA documentary: Sound It Out (2017). Summary:http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5532520/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2 … twitter.com/AdamL_Daily/status/768065762498121732Sound it Out: The Untitled LGBTQIA Music Documentary (2017)Plot SummaryShowing one plot summary An edgy and unapologetic look at the growing impact that open LGBTQ music artists, and their straight allies, are having on the portrayal of sexuality and gender politics in music, and its affect on the normalizing of gay culture. Using artists personal experiences as a lens, we'll look at sexuality's influence on music and the role of social media in helping artists complicate mainstream expectations of identity. How far are artists willing to push their music, messages and imagery to challenge the way pop culture defines notions of sexuality, masculinity, femininity, gender and what it means to be queer? |
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Post by adamrocks on Aug 23, 2016 12:42:13 GMT -5
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Post by LindaG23 on Aug 23, 2016 12:47:52 GMT -5
Not sure if we knew this already: Good morning/afternoon. Sound it Out: The Untitled LGBTQIA Music Documentary (2017)Plot SummaryShowing one plot summary An edgy and unapologetic look at the growing impact that open LGBTQ music artists, and their straight allies, are having on the portrayal of sexuality and gender politics in music, and its affect on the normalizing of gay culture. Using artists personal experiences as a lens, we'll look at sexuality's influence on music and the role of social media in helping artists complicate mainstream expectations of identity. How far are artists willing to push their music, messages and imagery to challenge the way pop culture defines notions of sexuality, masculinity, femininity, gender and what it means to be queer? And just to indicate Adam's influence, he is first in Cast and it is NOT alphabetical! |
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Post by adamrocks on Aug 23, 2016 12:51:16 GMT -5
TOT but Freddie was just an amazing bolt of energy!! This pic makes me smile!! A throwback pic! Music History @timeinmusic 25m25 minutes ago Freddie Mercury riding Darth Vader during a concert.  |
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Post by girldrummer on Aug 23, 2016 13:10:44 GMT -5
I expect no new songs, new recordings under the Queen brand -- even with a plus AL. We will eventually get a Live QAL DVD release. Brian could do another guitar feature on Adam's next album but that is the only other new recording that seems likely to me. And even that doesn't seem destined to happen. I know I've asked this before... Does anyone know if this eventual live QAL DVD will be from when they filmed during the earlier tour (when they filmed in Sydney), or will they put something together with more recent performances? Adam was excellent early on, but he really seemed to get better and better as time went on. Here is my take on it. Queen is riding high right now with Adam as frontman. It's a great place to be at this point in their career and many classic bands do not have that luck and privilege. I would hate for them to record new music with Adam (as good as that music might be) and have it not do well. They would be ending their long career (or close to it) on a negative note. I agree that the likelihood of new QAL music selling well is pretty slim, IMO. It's tons of work to write and record it, and the risk is high. I think Brian and Roger would prefer to go out like lions and not lambs. Ride the high tide with Adam till they simply can't or don't want to do it anymore. Adam will forever be in the annals of rock history because of Queen. His name will ALWAYS be there. That's a huge gift to him. I'm thinking that they will just leave well enough alone and continue on with Queen's incredible music legacy. |
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Post by lurleene on Aug 23, 2016 14:35:06 GMT -5
When Rihanna does a sexy video she is trying to appeal to the masses and not just African Americans. Universal appeal is her goal. A gay artist who wants mainstream success and not become a niche artist has to appeal to a universal audience as well. The gay market is small. Even with that, some show more support for a Beyonce or Rihanna or Gaga I think than they do for gay male artists. Even when Alex was opening for Adam, I saw one of his interviews where he was not going crazy over Adam (tho he was opening for him) but instead all Beyonce. Yes there is support for gay artists in the gay community but not enough to sustain a big career. When SS hit it big, instead of just celebrating his success, I saw one gay writer take that opportunity to dismiss Adam's accomplishments and gleefully enjoy his lack of the same type of acceptance and success on radio. It was hurtful and unnecessary, imo. Why pretend there were no factors that kept Adam from reaching that level of US success? Things are changing for the better tho for everyone. But as sexy as Adam is, he may not even want to do a video where he is really intimate with anyone. The choice for presentation should be his and not the choice or desires of others. It is his career and not theirs so he should decide when and how much risk he wants to take.
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