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Post by 3ku1 on Dec 2, 2016 19:51:58 GMT -5
Msybe unpopular but never liked Zodiac was a bit too zesty for my taste lol. I agree a lot of over singing. I prefer Adams evolved sound now. Amas was kinda a hybrid of the Zodiac show lol.
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Post by cheriemelissa on Dec 2, 2016 19:53:58 GMT -5
To reference an earlier conversation here... "Sleazy" is a pretty interesting word to describe The Zodiac Show. I, myself, wouldn't describe it that way at all. The performers are fully clothed and there were no sexual acts, real, or simulated happening. They were all creative and theatrical to an out there level with costuming and makeup application. Where was the sleaze? Adam, who is the subject matter here, was imo, nowhere near sleazy. He was, at that time, a 22 year old vibrant and budding entertainer. He is, by no fault of his own, just a very sexy human. He can't hid it or deny it. It is just who he is. He can just stand somewhere motionless, and his sexiness pours out of him. Rare trait for most, but he just has that about him. In the video that we have been watching that was posted here, Adam is in no way being sleazy. He is singing and dancing. If his sexy dance moves are characterized as sleazy to some, well, that is a personal problem. Maybe Adam pushed a button that you didn't even know you had to be pushed. He is a sexual being and may have brought out something that you never have addressed to yourself. He got a rise out of you as he gets a rise out of most people that enjoy him and his style of performance. His fans know this about him and accept it willingly. We know what we are going to get going to a live show or clicking on a youtube. To be and to enjoy him, you have to remain open minded and accepting of all he gives us. His magnificent voice is the reward and cherry on top of a totally over the top and expressive artist. Whether it is his costumes or make up, his hats or fierce footwear, the HUGE talent is always there to back it. Over the decades, there have been some true legit sleazy acts and entertainers. Courtney Love, Ted Nugent, Jim Morrison, Christina Aguilera through her Dirrty album period. Jimmy Page and his penchant for 14 year old girls. Gene Simmons and his legion of sexual conquests. R Kelly, and Michael Jackson himself was thought of as sleazy being the first performer to constantly grab his cock. Such a shocker for the 70's. lol Jared Leto now makes a point to grab his cock at all his shows. Queen's Bicycle video back in the day was considered sleazy with the naked girls riding the bikes. Madonna writhing around and humping her bed in concert. So, no, I would not classify Zodiac as sleazy. However, YMMV and it's something that you have to decide for yourself. Some of my most favorite Adam performances have been when he was very theatrical as in the vein of The Zodiac Show...Rock My Town, Fantasy Springs 1, Morongo had a touch of it and Mardi Gras in Oz. And I consider none of them sleazy.
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Post by 3ku1 on Dec 2, 2016 20:26:22 GMT -5
I would class Zodiac as over the top, kinda underground in a way. Def NOT mainstream. Thing with Adam is he evolves, while he was great with self expression ten years ago. I guess he's evolved and comfortable with who he is as an person and artist now.
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Post by Jablea on Dec 2, 2016 20:36:00 GMT -5
I am not reading too much into this comment or the articles -- the articles are just sites trying to get clicks. But it is nice to have a talent show finalist have Adam at the top of her list as a duet partner. There is plenty of time for Adam to get there but I don't expect it to happen. I bet he would do it. BUT If he was going to be part of the final, why keep it secret?because these shows always keep it a secret until the last few days. i have no idea why, but they do. Because it was such great surprise to see Adam & KISS together because we were hoping for Queen so it was cool but maybe a let down and then surprise, there was Queen too. I don't think they keep secrets as good as they used to. However I think something is up because Shoshana said we would "see" him soon. That to me means on screen somewhere again. Save
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Post by Jablea on Dec 2, 2016 20:40:40 GMT -5
To reference an earlier conversation here... "Sleazy" is a pretty interesting word to describe The Zodiac Show. I, myself, wouldn't describe it that way at all. The performers are fully clothed and there were no sexual acts, real, or simulated happening. They were all creative and theatrical to an out there level with costuming and makeup application. Where was the sleaze? Adam, who is the subject matter here, was imo, nowhere near sleazy. He was, at that time, a 22 year old vibrant and budding entertainer. He is, by no fault of his own, just a very sexy human. He can't hid it or deny it. It is just who he is. He can just stand somewhere motionless, and his sexiness pours out of him. Rare trait for most, but he just has that about him. In the video that we have been watching that was posted here, Adam is in no way being sleazy. He is singing and dancing. If his sexy dance moves are characterized as sleazy to some, well, that is a personal problem. Maybe Adam pushed a button that you didn't even know you had to be pushed. He is a sexual being and may have brought out something that you never have addressed to yourself. He got a rise out of you as he gets a rise out of most people that enjoy him and his style of performance. His fans know this about him and accept it willingly. We know what we are going to get going to a live show or clicking on a youtube. To be and to enjoy him, you have to remain open minded and accepting of all he gives us. His magnificent voice is the reward and cherry on top of a totally over the top and expressive artist. Whether it is his costumes or make up, his hats or fierce footwear, the HUGE talent is always there to back it. Over the decades, there have been some true legit sleazy acts and entertainers. Courtney Love, Ted Nugent, Jim Morrison, Christina Aguilera through her Dirrty album period. Jimmy Page and his penchant for 14 year old girls. Gene Simmons and his legion of sexual conquests. R Kelly, and Michael Jackson himself was thought of as sleazy being the first performer to constantly grab his cock. Such a shocker for the 70's. lol Jared Leto now makes a point to grab his cock at all his shows. Queen's Bicycle video back in the day was considered sleazy with the naked girls riding the bikes. Madonna writhing around and humping her bed in concert. So, no, I would not classify Zodiac as sleazy. However, YMMV and it's something that you have to decide for yourself. Some of my most favorite Adam performances have been when he was very theatrical as in the vein of The Zodiac Show...Rock My Town, Fantasy Springs 1, Morongo had a touch of it and Mardi Gras in Oz. And I consider none of them sleazy. I think there are mulitiple definitions of sleazy. For example sleazy politics is probably not about sex. Some people like the over the top and others of us look back and wonder what were we thinking. I prefer older Adam with the hint of boyishness more than the boy Adam with a hint of maturity. Save
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Post by Q3 on Dec 2, 2016 20:57:53 GMT -5
The three finalist for XFactorUK have not been voted on yet. For Saara to get a partner I think she has to make the finals first. This week should determine who the finalists are and I think there are still four in the running. XFActorAu had four in the finals but UK is different they have three. One will be eliminated this week and next week will be the finale. Oh thanks! Of course, the final three won't be announced until Dec 4th. I guess I need to root for Saarah and then hope she gets her dream duet partner.
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Post by 1jun14 on Dec 2, 2016 21:54:51 GMT -5
To reference an earlier conversation here... "Sleazy" is a pretty interesting word to describe The Zodiac Show. I, myself, wouldn't describe it that way at all. The performers are fully clothed and there were no sexual acts, real, or simulated happening. They were all creative and theatrical to an out there level with costuming and makeup application. Where was the sleaze? Adam, who is the subject matter here, was imo, nowhere near sleazy. He was, at that time, a 22 year old vibrant and budding entertainer. He is, by no fault of his own, just a very sexy human. He can't hid it or deny it. It is just who he is. He can just stand somewhere motionless, and his sexiness pours out of him. Rare trait for most, but he just has that about him. In the video that we have been watching that was posted here, Adam is in no way being sleazy. He is singing and dancing. If his sexy dance moves are characterized as sleazy to some, well, that is a personal problem. Maybe Adam pushed a button that you didn't even know you had to be pushed. He is a sexual being and may have brought out something that you never have addressed to yourself. He got a rise out of you as he gets a rise out of most people that enjoy him and his style of performance. His fans know this about him and accept it willingly. We know what we are going to get going to a live show or clicking on a youtube. To be and to enjoy him, you have to remain open minded and accepting of all he gives us. His magnificent voice is the reward and cherry on top of a totally over the top and expressive artist. Whether it is his costumes or make up, his hats or fierce footwear, the HUGE talent is always there to back it. Over the decades, there have been some true legit sleazy acts and entertainers. Courtney Love, Ted Nugent, Jim Morrison, Christina Aguilera through her Dirrty album period. Jimmy Page and his penchant for 14 year old girls. Gene Simmons and his legion of sexual conquests. R Kelly, and Michael Jackson himself was thought of as sleazy being the first performer to constantly grab his cock. Such a shocker for the 70's. lol Jared Leto now makes a point to grab his cock at all his shows. Queen's Bicycle video back in the day was considered sleazy with the naked girls riding the bikes. Madonna writhing around and humping her bed in concert. So, no, I would not classify Zodiac as sleazy. However, YMMV and it's something that you have to decide for yourself. Some of my most favorite Adam performances have been when he was very theatrical as in the vein of The Zodiac Show...Rock My Town, Fantasy Springs 1, Morongo had a touch of it and Mardi Gras in Oz. And I consider none of them sleazy. I think there are mulitiple definitions of sleazy. For example sleazy politics is probably not about sex. Some people like the over the top and others of us look back and wonder what were we thinking. I prefer older Adam with the hint of boyishness more than the boy Adam with a hint of maturity. SaveYes, of course there are many instances of sleaziness. Politics is one area for sure. But here, the sleaziness factor was pertaining to The Zodiac Show. That was the reference point. And that is what I was responding to. Sleaziness, as I have shown by multiple examples, does not always mean sexual. Courtney Love and Christina Aguilera can be said that their manner of dressing was sleazy. Madonna's gyrations could be seen as sleazy too. Lenny Bruce stood in a suit and told jokes. He was however, thought of as sleazy too. But sleazy, as a descriptor for The Zodiac Show imo was incorrect. A better word seemed warranted. I don't feel that the artists are trying to be looked upon as sleazy. It would probably blindside them if they heard it. When all they were trying to do was put on a show, sing, dance and entertain. I can't say if I prefer older Adam or younger Adam better. Both have had, and has its charm. All of Adam is good for me. I am enjoying his evolution immensely.
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Post by happy on Dec 2, 2016 22:01:12 GMT -5
The word might be "outre." I've just been enjoying Adam being Adam over the years!
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Post by Q3 on Dec 3, 2016 0:14:34 GMT -5
I too love Adam being Adam in all its forms. I am hard pressed to think of anything he has done that I do not enjoy on some level.
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Post by Jablea on Dec 3, 2016 0:14:47 GMT -5
I think there are mulitiple definitions of sleazy. For example sleazy politics is probably not about sex. Some people like the over the top and others of us look back and wonder what were we thinking. I prefer older Adam with the hint of boyishness more than the boy Adam with a hint of maturity. SaveYes, of course there are many instances of sleaziness. Politics is one area for sure. But here, the sleaziness factor was pertaining to The Zodiac Show. That was the reference point. And that is what I was responding to. Sleaziness, as I have shown by multiple examples, does not always mean sexual. Courtney Love and Christina Aguilera can be said that their manner of dressing was sleazy. Madonna's gyrations could be seen as sleazy too. Lenny Bruce stood in a suit and told jokes. He was however, thought of as sleazy too. But sleazy, as a descriptor for The Zodiac Show imo was incorrect. A better word seemed warranted. I don't feel that the artists are trying to be looked upon as sleazy. It would probably blindside them if they heard it. When all they were trying to do was put on a show, sing, dance and entertain. I can't say if I prefer older Adam or younger Adam better. Both have had, and has its charm. All of Adam is good for me. I am enjoying his evolution immensely. hmmm, all the examples you gave I thought were describing how the Zodiac show was not sexual sleazy and comparing it to artists that you did deem sexually sleazy. I was saying that whoever used sleazy as a description may not have been putting the same meaning in it, or even if they did then sleazy is in the eye of the beholder no matter what the entertainers were aiming for. And what may not be sleazy in liberal coastal cities culture could certainly be sleazy by other cultures both in America and overseas. So my objection is simply that for some people sleazy might be exactly the word they are looking for despite it not being a word you would use. So I understand why you wouldn't use it but I felt a bit put out that you were saying that other people shouldn't. Would you object to Rocky Horror being described as sleazy? Save
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