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Post by AnnAdoresAdam on Apr 6, 2017 19:26:51 GMT -5
Obviously a long post--just skip if you want, I know I am preaching to the choir here, and, like the rest of us, pretty much let the "but he's not Freddie" roll off our backs, but a few posts back, there was a very congratulatory short article in which the familiar refrain, "of course, he's not Freddie" (or some paraphrase of) came up. I began to think that inadvertently, and due to his humbleness and gratitude, Adam might be contributing to this type of phrasing. Don't get me wrong: I love Adam, I love Adam, I love Adam. Just a thought that if you say something in a certain way often enough, people will believe it. In another life, I was a college professor. An absolutely brilliant and well-loved colleague of mine developed a new class which was wildly popular. The person who took over the class stated many times, "I'm not Professor x." I know this because my TA was in this class. Little by little, my TA said that students (some of them subconsciously) began to take on the attitude that they were getting second best. Nothing could have been further from the truth, but the new professor inadvertently created this environment. Finally, this professor gave thIs class over to another professor, and we didn't hear another thing about it, we were told that she said the college owed a great debt of gratitude to Professor X for founding and developing this class, and then, she carried on in her own way--as has Adam--and the classroom enrollment figures grew, and the new professor's reputation as an interesting, informed, and caring person grew. I know the analogy above is not exact, but I believe there are some similarities with what I said about the continuation of the "But he's not Freddie statements" that is still too prevalent IMHO. I do like when someone responds to such comments, "Of course he's not Freddie, he's Adam" and goes on to extol the strengths of each. Of course, Freddie Mercury more than deserves in an essential way the accolades as a co-founder, song-writer, supremely talented pianist, singer, and one of the most charismatic frontman in rock history. I'll say that Adam matches, if not surpasses, the last two in the list, and I believe that Adam might have faced the most daunting task of being the frontman of someone larger than life such as Freddie ever IMO. However, after quite a number of years as a wildly popular frontman who has an undeniably great chemistry and who is considered family by all concerned, surely just a slight change of wording might be helpful. While I don't pretend to know what that would would consist of, there has to be some way to acknowledge Freddie, while not stating any statement that might accidentally create a comparison in which Adam comes out as second best. After all, there are people who will just simply repeat what they hear. Luckily, we are seeing more people recognizing both, but there are still many individuals, media members, critics,mercy...etc..., who still repeat the old refrain. Of course, any person is entitled to their opinion: these are just thoughts. Let me repeat: this is no criticism of Adam, this is no criticism if Queen. I think they are a magical combination, and I cannot wait to see them twice this summer"๐๐๐ค Please forgive any errors. I am having some pretty bad eye problems.
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Post by lurleene on Apr 6, 2017 19:28:01 GMT -5
Oh my Katycake, that picture of Adam in the black leather is EVERYTHING! One of my favorite looks on Adam ever. Gorgeous, sexy, hot, intense and rock n roll.
ETA I often wish Adam could perform with Queen now without so much emphasis on the past. He and they have acknowledged what Freddie meant to them and the world.
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Post by irish1139 on Apr 6, 2017 19:54:10 GMT -5
Besides Adam is the Gift from God. Whenever I hear Brian say that I know he means it and is so happy to have Adam with Queen. I don't think Brian thinks Adam has ever been second best. He has enabled Queen to travel again and play to crowds of hundreds of thousands. Adam truly is a Gift from God. It doesn't get better than that.
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Post by girldrummer on Apr 6, 2017 20:36:17 GMT -5
PopCrush @popcrush Mariah, The Weeknd, Adam Lambert, Cyndi Lauper and more: the must-see tours of spring-summer 2017. trib.al/AyXQPrY The concert scene in 2017 is full of new and old groups and solo acts, with Ed Sheeran and The Weeknd arguably setting the pace for modern music. Those two gentlemen know how to attract a crowd, but with the likes of U2 and Queen (with Adam Lambert) holding court, itโll be interesting to see whether or not old school or new school packs the stadiums more than the other. QAL is picture 15 out of 16. They used a good picture. Queen and Adam Lambert Queen teaming with Adam Lambert was such a success in the past, it's no wonder the remaining members of rock's legendary band are partnering up with the former American Idol once again. Of course it's not Freddie, but Lambert gives Queen exactly the star presence the band needs to make shows special. See where this supergroup is playing on Queen's site. I had a very hard time getting to picture 15 in that site, but when I finally got there, it was so worth it. I'm embedding for those who couldn't get there: Thanks so much for posting this picture. I tried to go through all the pictures but it kept slowing down and stopping and buffering. I never did get to this one either. Adam looks SO FABULOUS, SO SEXY, SO SLY, SO PERFECT. Thanks again!
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Post by marionm on Apr 6, 2017 20:37:53 GMT -5
katycake What you DOING to me?! phronni7: What you're saying makes total sense to me. Really interesting post to keep in mind in my daily life as well. Maybe part of it is that Freddie has this aura of "untouchable", or as you said "larger than life". That people just don't dare to critique without some way of glorifying Freddie/putting Adam second for fear of flack from public or...that it's more he aura than what might actually be the case... personally I think it's impossible to objectively compare two people who come so close in skill and talent (in this case in the vocal and showman department) because it becomes sooo subjective if the range between their skill is so marginal..
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Post by melliemom on Apr 6, 2017 20:44:14 GMT -5
My daughter who has never been a fan of Adam's own music heard Freddie with Queen and said to me" Mom I think Adam has a better voice than Freddie Mercury had and boy he's gorgeous .. this 7 years after my glowing reports about Adam's talent..I acted cool and said yes many folks think so...YES
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Post by girldrummer on Apr 6, 2017 20:49:03 GMT -5
Obviously a long post--just skip if you want, I know I am preaching to the choir here, and, like the rest of us, pretty much let the "but he's not Freddie" roll off our backs, but a few posts back, there was a very congratulatory short article in which the familiar refrain, "of course, he's not Freddie" (or some paraphrase of) came up. I began to think that inadvertently, and due to his humbleness and gratitude, Adam might be contributing to this type of phrasing. Don't get me wrong: I love Adam, I love Adam, I love Adam. Just a thought that if you say something in a certain way often enough, people will believe it. In another life, I was a college professor. An absolutely brilliant and well-loved colleague of mine developed a new class which was wildly popular. The person who took over the class stated many times, "I'm not Professor x." I know this because my TA was in this class. Little by little, my TA said that students (some of them subconsciously) began to take on the attitude that they were getting second best. Nothing could have been further from the truth, but the new professor inadvertently created this environment. Finally, this professor gave thIs class over to another professor, and we didn't hear another thing about it, we were told that she said the college owed a great debt of gratitude to Professor X for founding and developing this class, and then, she carried on in her own way--as has Adam--and the classroom enrollment figures grew, and the new professor's reputation as an interesting, informed, and caring person grew. I know the analogy above is not exact, but I believe there are some similarities with what I said about the continuation of the "But he's not Freddie statements" that is still too prevalent IMHO. I do like when someone responds to such comments, "Of course he's not Freddie, he's Adam" and goes on to extol the strengths of each. Of course, Freddie Mercury more than deserves in an essential way the accolades as a co-founder, song-writer, supremely talented pianist, singer, and one of the most charismatic frontman in rock history. I'll say that Adam matches, if not surpasses, the last two in the list, and I believe that Adam might have faced the most daunting task of being the frontman of someone larger than life such as Freddie ever IMO. However, after quite a number of years as a wildly popular frontman who has an undeniably great chemistry and who is considered family by all concerned, surely just a slight change of wording might be helpful. While I don't pretend to know what that would would consist of, there has to be some way to acknowledge Freddie, while not stating any statement that might accidentally create a comparison in which Adam comes out as second best. After all, there are people who will just simply repeat what they hear. Luckily, we are seeing more people recognizing both, but there are still many individuals, media members, critics,mercy...etc..., who still repeat the old refrain. Of course, any person is entitled to their opinion: these are just thoughts. Let me repeat: this is no criticism of Adam, this is no criticism if Queen. I think they are a magical combination, and I cannot wait to see them twice this summer"๐๐๐ค Please forgive any errors. I am having some pretty bad eye problems. The miracle of QAL is that, despite all the "but he's no Freddie Mercury," Adam has managed to win over millions of Queen purists and diehard Queen fans. They see Adam's love for Freddie and they see Adam's genuine humility and gratitude. He's so honest and pure in his love the Freddie. And of course, there is Adam's voice which cannot be denied. I really like your examples about how the "original" of anything often becomes so revered, that it's impossible to replace it, even if the replacement is better. It's all pure emotional commitment. I feel that way about a lot of things I love. Nothing could ever take their place. Roger and Brian and strongly hinted that Adam sings better than Freddie. And they love the playful campiness and the humor and sweetness that Adam brings to Queen, qualities that were not so much a part of Freddie's persona. We follow our HEARTS when it comes to loyalty, not our HEADS. Queen fans who cannot accept Adam have simply given their hearts to Freddie's legacy. As we've all said, Adam is no Freddie Mercury. He's ADAM.
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Post by girldrummer on Apr 6, 2017 20:50:34 GMT -5
"The Amazing Adventures of Adam and Pharaoh." A hit series in the making!
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Post by wal on Apr 6, 2017 20:56:16 GMT -5
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Post by nica575 on Apr 6, 2017 21:32:14 GMT -5
ughhh...took me a few mins to figure out the "Tom Ford" is not a reflection but a print on the sunglasses...#feelingstupid
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