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Post by Daenerys on May 4, 2017 8:03:32 GMT -5
Daenery....THanks for ruining my day.. who are you ,that you know so much about someone you probably don't even know. Huh? I'm discussing Adam's solo music career not his personal life. Speculation is what music fans do until it happens. If your day is now ruin than maybe your way to invested that you cannot have a reasonable conversation. Your tone is very attack mode which is why I never come here. As for WBR, I said EPs are signs that an artists is either dropped or the label isn't supporting a full album. If it makes you feel better than I will say that it's all my opinion. We'll see and how much support he gets. As for Adam's international chart positions combine sales of GT if you add based on certifications probably add up to no more than 500k. Artists still being on label websites means nothing. They take months to update. IF you go any music sites and look for Adam threads you will read a whole different world view on how pop artists fans see Adam's career. It's not good. Melliemom, I see you on twitter and your constant attacks are the main reason why Adam's fans are leave this fandom. You think having these kinds of discussion good or bad, speculation or facts is hard to handle than my advice is to never step foot on real music boards. Stay in your safe zone. The mods would throw you out for not letting people have their opinions even if you disagree with. Enjoy the pretty Adam pictures which is what is left of this site. I'm out. Oh. I see you edited your post. Yup I was a bit harsh.. I just get upset when rumours without facts start to make the rounds... Discussing Adam's career on a fan site should be a safe place to discuss. I understand it's an open forum but nobody reads fan sites but hard core fans. Non fans could care less. Like I said go on any real music boards and it's all rumors and speculation. If it wasn't there wouldn't be much to talk about. There will be fans that will agree with you and there will be fans that will tell you to stick to facts. It's just how it is. It's also helps to keep long open discussions active on a board without scaring people off. Many minds and opinions can change with good and even at time not so good discussions. |
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Post by DancyGeorgia on May 4, 2017 8:05:46 GMT -5
Talking about his career is one thing. Making assumptions about his recording license. Like oh WBR have dumped him. OR even crapping on Adams career, and his friends e.t.c. This and that. IS just alot of conjecture. Adam has left his management seeminly. And well prob be looking for a new direction their. But jumping to blanket conclusions, based on well nothing is to say it is premature, is putting it lightley. GT was a big hit internationally. Was a Top 20 US Pop Radio hit. Double Platnum in Aussie. Did very well in Europe. He is releasing his fourth studio album through WBR. Nothing has changed their. Adam hasen't even released any music out. So until that happens. Just steady on. Just one minor correction. Adam has seemingly left his PUBLICIST not his MANAGEMENT. Those are two very different things. |
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Post by melliemom on May 4, 2017 8:11:12 GMT -5
Yup I was a bit harsh.. I just get upset when rumours without facts start to make the rounds... Discussing Adam's career on a fan site should be a safe place to discuss. I understand it's an open forum but nobody reads fan sites but hard core fans. Non fans could care less. Like I said go on any real music boards and it's all rumors and speculation. If it wasn't there wouldn't be much to talk about. There will be fans that will agree with you and there will be fans that will tell you to stick to facts. It's just how it is. It's also helps to keep long open discussions active on a board without scaring people off. Many minds and opinions can change with good and even at time not so good discussions. IMHO works well when speculating...otherwise some like me ,can think you have an inside scoop."All's well that ends well" |
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Post by Daenerys on May 4, 2017 8:12:09 GMT -5
@deanerys I think you can see and argue Adams career anyway you want...and there are voices on here who want a big smash hit for Adam, want his PR-Team/Label to show more support, to get him on Award Shows etc... Understanable. In all fairness I think WBR did as much as they could. They don't have the best A&R team but the problem lies with the radio corporate gatekeepers who decide which artists they want to push. I'm not fan of DMG or Shoshanna. I see way too many artists who's music career is in the same boat as Adam but their management gets them on high profile gigs and awards shows that matters. DMG got too comfortable with Queen. Adam needs a cut throat like Scooter Braun. Adam needs a US based PR firm. |
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Post by DancyGeorgia on May 4, 2017 8:17:05 GMT -5
Yup I was a bit harsh.. I just get upset when rumours without facts start to make the rounds... Discussing Adam's career on a fan site should be a safe place to discuss. I understand it's an open forum but nobody reads fan sites but hard core fans. Non fans could care less. Like I said go on any real music boards and it's all rumors and speculation. If it wasn't there wouldn't be much to talk about. There will be fans that will agree with you and there will be fans that will tell you to stick to facts. It's just how it is. It's also helps to keep long open discussions active on a board without scaring people off. Many minds and opinions can change with good and even at time not so good discussions. It's great to have open discussions about different opinions. But we all need to clearly state opinions in a way that makes it obvious that they are opinions and not facts. A simple way is to put "IMHO" (in my humble opinion) or even just "IMO" at the beginning or end of what you are saying. It may seem obvious to some people that it is just opinions without it being stated as such, but it is not obvious to everyone, especially when people are from so many different backgrounds and there are no verbal clues to help place things in context. Just MHO on the matter! |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 8:18:16 GMT -5
Adam putting out an EP means he was dropped by WBR. This would explain why Max Martin is no longer in the picture and Adam saying he wants to put out an album he wants and if fans like it cool but if not whatever. Leaving Shosh was for saving costs. Her clients are all major label artists. All the signs having pointing to this. WBR has shown no interest and anticipation for an artist who is working on his next album. Jason Derula was still getting pimp while he was working on his album. I follow way too many artists to see the writing on the wall. Adam 2017 year is all Queen and this will be his main focus until Brian or Roger drops dead. His pop solo career is dead. DMG isn't even trying but hey make that easy money. It has always baffled me how some thought Shoshanna and DMG were doing an amazing job with moving Adam's career forward. The bar has been set so low for him that any crumbs would have do. It's all very disappointing but Adam is 35 years old now and pop is a young artist genre. First, I think the writer used her own interpretation and used EP for both Alisan and Adam. In the live interview Alisan makes a distinction between her "EP" and Adam's "record.' 2nd, I think EPs are a good thing, not bad. With the new popularity of streaming, I see more singles and more EPs as the wave of the future. The great thing about EPs is that the artists can do 2, in a short period of time, as opposed to waiting 2-3 years for a full album. You know what? What if he does or did decide he will make his millions with QAL, but for his solo career he will be more independent and do exactly what he wants creatively? A whole album filled with songs like Runnin, There i said it, Shady? I am fine with that! He was very excited about having his new music stuck in his head in that interview 2 days ago. IMO, Adam knows exactly what he wants to do. I am here for it!  ETA: IMO, Alisan, Ferras, Sarah, Bonnie, are amazing song writers. NZ Cowboy (don't remember his name) has an impressive resume. I don't really care if Max is involved or not! Would love for Adam to do whatever he wants w/o thinking "will this be a hit?" "Will this get radio play?" |
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Post by Daenerys on May 4, 2017 8:23:04 GMT -5
Talking about his career is one thing. Making assumptions about his recording license. Like oh WBR have dumped him. OR even crapping on Adams career, and his friends e.t.c. This and that. IS just alot of conjecture. Adam has left his management seeminly. And well prob be looking for a new direction their. But jumping to blanket conclusions, based on well nothing is to say it is premature, is putting it lightley. GT was a big hit internationally. Was a Top 20 US Pop Radio hit. Double Platnum in Aussie. Did very well in Europe. He is releasing his fourth studio album through WBR. Nothing has changed their. Adam hasen't even released any music out. So until that happens. Just steady on. Adam hasn't left his management. Adam's 1st era was way more successful than TOH era and that didn't stop RCA for not supporting era 2. So much goes in label decisions. WBR has a lot of lower tier artists and they seem to hold on to them a lot longer but they don't have the Max Martins working with. IF he's still with WBR I'm not expecting a big push from them and even IF Adam was no longer with them, the music industry has changed so much even in the past 2 years that having a major label deal isn't do or die anymore. Adam can hire his own radio promoting team and get a distribution deal and probably get the same results. |
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Post by enchanted on May 4, 2017 8:23:06 GMT -5
So much to chew on this morning.............whatever will be, will be!
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Post by melliemom on May 4, 2017 8:33:48 GMT -5
Adam putting out an EP means he was dropped by WBR. This would explain why Max Martin is no longer in the picture and Adam saying he wants to put out an album he wants and if fans like it cool but if not whatever. Leaving Shosh was for saving costs. Her clients are all major label artists. All the signs having pointing to this. WBR has shown no interest and anticipation for an artist who is working on his next album. Jason Derula was still getting pimp while he was working on his album. I follow way too many artists to see the writing on the wall. Adam 2017 year is all Queen and this will be his main focus until Brian or Roger drops dead. His pop solo career is dead. DMG isn't even trying but hey make that easy money. It has always baffled me how some thought Shoshanna and DMG were doing an amazing job with moving Adam's career forward. The bar has been set so low for him that any crumbs would have do. It's all very disappointing but Adam is 35 years old now and pop is a young artist genre. First, I think the writer used her own interpretation and used EP for both Alisan and Adam. In the live interview Alisan makes a distinction between her "EP" and Adam's "record.' 2nd, I think EPs are a good thing, not bad. With the new popularity of streaming, I see more singles and more EPs as the wave of the future. The great thing about EPs is that the artists can do 2, in a short period of time, as opposed to waiting 2-3 years for a full album. You know what? What if he does or did decide he will make his millions with QAL, but for his solo career he will be more independent and do exactly what he wants creatively? A whole album filled with songs like Runnin, There i said it, Shady? I am fine with that! He was very excited about having his new music stuck in his head in that interview 2 days ago. IMO, Adam knows exactly what he wants to do. I am here for it! ETA: IMO, Alisan, Ferras, Sarah, Bonnie, are amazing song writers. NZ Cowboy (don't remember his name) has an impressive resume. I don't really care if Max is involved or not! Would love for Adam to do whatever he wants w/o thinking "will this be a hit?" "Will this get radio play?" Pattihum You always make me feel "Better than Good" Paula Abdul |
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Post by marionm on May 4, 2017 8:42:49 GMT -5
Daenerys Scooter Braun? Really?!...The main trick he uses is to have his clients stage some wierd "scandals" to keep them relevent and give them visibility (aka Ariana Grande, Justin Bieber, Tori Kelly is one to not sell out) Just my humble opinion^^...no, I do not like the guy. As far as I'm informed Ariana hasn't had a huge radio-hit here in Germany and it took Bieber until "Love yourself" to get radioplay and both have toured big venues here... Yes he get's them jobs and gigs but it's not like Adam was out of work the last three years^^
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