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Post by justgill on May 10, 2012 12:37:32 GMT -5
justgill, all these streams are getting the music (the album) out there. This is creating huge buzz---people are talking about Trespassing, and I have seen posts from casual fans who are now planning to purchase the album because the music is so good. It has been said a million times, but all artists see their music downloaded illegally. But I firmly believe that if a person plans to illegally download an album there is not much you can do to stop it. They know the process and would have done it with or without a stream. The buzz and attention Trespassing has gotten is about the best promo you can get. Oh, and of course GMA. I have to take a second to flail about GMA!!!Full circle moment. (Now he just needs that People cover---heck, I'll take a 1 or 2 page article at this point---and my flailing will be complete) Thanks for that. I sort of knew that would be the case, but just had to clarify  . ETA: With Trespassing available for ANYONE to hear for free, RCA is taking away the necessity for the listener to steal the album just to see if it is worth listening to. For a limited time, anyone can click on a link on a website and get INSTANT GRATIFICATION. Then this person might like (or in the case of Trespassing, LOVE) the product and want to listen to it in the car for example. A large percentage of the population would have harder time burning a CD themselves instead of buying one at Walmart, so they would do the latter, KNOWING it is a great product already. Radio play is also part of this, but it only gives you one or two songs which should in theory show you how great the album is (but in the case of TP, don't). It is a game of numbers and is a fight for the subconscious minds of the casual listener (or in my case, user), not against the hard-core pirates. There is also the word of mouth aspect where someone who heard/saw a free preview and told others about it personally or via Twitter/FB/phone is increasing the chances for a sale even if the original person did not buy it... Also, I personally believe that someone who loves a product and thus indirectly respects the person who created it is less likely to steal that work, but I could be just naive  Thanks so much for that info; and I don't think you're naive at all :D. It seems a bit like the 80/20 percentile rule that some people advocate for the removal of speed limits. ie. the 20% who would drive at a dangerous speed if allowed, will break the limits anyway 8-). |
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Post by marie23 on May 10, 2012 12:38:22 GMT -5
OMG Pharrel is so hot!!! Sorry, just had to say that.
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Post by aloha on May 10, 2012 12:42:56 GMT -5
Can I just show my ignorance here :-[. What is the purpose behind making the whole album 'available' like, everywhere? I'm sure there's some mathematical formula explaining about numbers of people who would copy illegally instead of buying legally versus promo value but this really does seem to be giving it away to the masses ???. Be kind please, I no unnerstand . Here is my POV. I work for a software company whose products are used in major motion picture visual effects production (shameless plug ahead: like Avatar or the opening 10 minutes of The Avengers). Our software is generally stolen the day it is released, sometimes earlier, so I see a clear parallel to music. Fighting the pirates technologically is futile and only wastes resources on our side. Our software has protection schemes and requires a license, but anything like that can be defeated by a good hacker. The way we deal with it is psychological. We cannot do anything about the actual hackers who crack our software and upload it as a Torent on the internet. But we can do something about the average person out there. Most people tend to go the path of the least resistance, so if morals are taken out of the equation, a person will do what is EASIER for them, not based on what is right or wrong. It is about convenience. If one really wants to hear an album or try out a software, they would only download from a shady source if it is easier than getting a legitimate FREE preview from the original source. So our software products, just like the streams of Trespassing, are available in nearly unlimited mode for anyone to download and play with. There are some minor limitations to make it impractical to use in real production, but it does not prevent the user for enjoying 99% of the tool. Our software costs between $1000 and $5000, so getting almost all of it for free makes people happy and we remove a significant amount of the incentive to get it illegally. We also provide unlimited evaluation licensing for anyone who want to test all 100% before buying. Steve Jobs realized that and created iTunes. It is way easier to preview and download an album from iTunes or Amazon than to search for a Torent which might or might not be virus-free or even the real thing. Interestingly, most people will rather spend $10 and click once than spend $0 and click 10 times to get the same content. Also, iTunes and Amazon provide a social networking element as you can see what others are buying and commenting on and you can get automatic suggestions for other similar artists you might have never heard of before based on your purchase. With Trespassing available for ANYONE to hear for free, RCA is taking away the necessity for the listener to steal the album just to see if it is worth listening to. For a limited time, anyone can click on a link on a website and get INSTANT GRATIFICATION. Then this person might like (or in the case of Trespassing, LOVE) the product and want to listen to it in the car for example. A large percentage of the population would have harder time burning a CD themselves instead of buying one at Walmart, so they would do the latter, KNOWING it is a great product already. Radio play is also part of this, but it only gives you one or two songs which should in theory show you how great the album is (but in the case of TP, don't). It is a game of numbers and is a fight for the subconscious minds of the casual listener (or in my case, user), not against the hard-core pirates. There is also the word of mouth aspect where someone who heard/saw a free preview and told others about it personally or via Twitter/FB/phone is increasing the chances for a sale even if the original person did not buy it... Also, I personally believe that someone who loves a product and thus indirectly respects the person who created it is less likely to steal that work, but I could be just naive Thank you !! That's the best explanation I've read! |
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Post by gelly14 on May 10, 2012 12:44:35 GMT -5
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Post by moondance on May 10, 2012 12:49:39 GMT -5
I would not expect an apology or any response from EW. Sometimes EW publishes items on their opinion page (in the print magazine) on topics that have received a lot of feedback. I will keep an eye on that page for the next few weeks, unless we hear something earlier. If GLAAD gets in touch with EW (seems like a lot of people reported the "review" to GLAAD), EW may also have to react. I will be very disappointed if there is no response, taking into account that the Managing Editor is a gay man who is out. There are lots of comments on EW re the Trespassing review, and in my experience they do frequently print comments that are in opposition to something they've published. I just added this: As a long-time EW subscriber, I am so disappointed with the tone this reviewer took on Adam's new album. Is the review about his music or about his sexual orientation? Adam has more talent in his little finger than most of today's top-selling pop artists combined. The wrath of the Glamberts is upon you now. Your reviewer is entitled to give Trespassing whatever grade she deems fit, but given the gist of the review, the music was an afterthought. So, so disappointed, EW. |
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Post by thelambertluvva on May 10, 2012 12:51:36 GMT -5
OMG Pharrel is so hot!!! Sorry, just had to say that. I agree. Can't believe he's almost 40. |
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Post by gelly14 on May 10, 2012 12:52:40 GMT -5
anajaleeIn order to see a YT video that is not available in your country use hidemyass.com/youtube-proxy/Copy the url of the video go there and paste it. You will be able to see it.
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Post by pi on May 10, 2012 12:57:14 GMT -5
Amazon US - Trespassing Deluxe -- moving up!! ;D
# Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #12 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)
* #4 in Music > Pop > Adult Alternative
* #4 in Music > Alternative Rock
* #9 in Music > Rock
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Post by mahailia on May 10, 2012 12:58:01 GMT -5
I would not expect an apology or any response from EW. I am choosing to believe that this was a failed attempt at humor written by someone who is squarely stuck in the 20th century. Perhaps she should realize it is not 1970's. Music should not be classified as gay or straight. Artists should not be classified as gay or straight. And people should not be classified as gay or straight. What is also novel about this review is that it is the first review of Trespassing that has not mentioned the vocals in any way. Is the another one? I can live with a B-. But I cannot live with "So it's hard to understand why it took him so long to make his big gay dance-club album. Even after he came out in 2009, the eighth-season runner-up didn't stop flirting with the straight crowd, indulging in classic-rock guitars and gender-neutral pronouns on his debut, For Your Entertainment. But on Trespassing, he's left the closet far behind — defending gay marriage (''Outlaws of Love'') and celebrating what happens when two consenting adults love each other enough to share their safe words (''Chokehold'')." This makes the deficiency of the album that he is too gay. Sorry, that kind of review just does not cut it will me. ETA: I just posted my opinion on this review on Page 1. I really tried to pass on this one but I could not do it. Perhaps I need to become a better person but this one really bothers me. This is a total outrage, and EW is definitely getting an ear full, they already have over 1000 comments. The article is already out in print so it will be very interesting to see what happens with this. Thanks so much for posting and your poignant letter to EW and the Glamily here at Adamtopia. You rock!! |
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Post by reihmer on May 10, 2012 13:02:06 GMT -5
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