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Post by cleopatra on Jun 2, 2019 9:46:37 GMT -5
Many singers at the non-arena level (including some AI alums) are always performing somewhere, week after week, year after year. They are on "tour" playing smaller venues continually, virtually all the time. This is true. IMO one thing that contributes to the frustration some fans feel regarding Adam's solo career is that, unlike many of those aforementioned non-arena artists, Adam seems as though he should be an arena artist. His whole performance style, huge voice, charismatic larger-than-life presence and "more is more" aesthetic are such natural fits for that size venue. Even Barry Weiss from RCA said it in the "Behind the Music" special - he's an arena artist. In the immediate post-Idol period, there was a widespread expectation that he would indeed be an arena artist. We can endlessly debate the reasons why it didn't happen, and it doesn't make him a failure that it didn't happen, but I'm not gonna lie - I will always wonder what kind of arena tour he would have put together if he'd had the level of success and the resources to do it. I'm sure there are fans, probably right here, who are just as happy that he doesn't do arena tours, and that's great. And nothing I've said here is meant to disparage his current level of success, which many, many artists would kill to have. But as it stands, I just hope that if he tours for "Velvet", he'll be able to fill the same size venues he has done previously.
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Post by bamafan on Jun 2, 2019 9:52:37 GMT -5
Nothing from Adam or Javi on IG for over 8 hours. I guess Adam (and maybe Javi...who knows) are in flight to Berlin? With Shosh's comments seems almost certain.
John Taylor @johnlloydtaylor, the Pres of Phillymack is now following Brian, Javi and Adam's 3 band members on IG. He follows a ton of folks so not sure if significant.
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Post by lurleene on Jun 2, 2019 10:27:43 GMT -5
Many singers at the non-arena level (including some AI alums) are always performing somewhere, week after week, year after year. They are on "tour" playing smaller venues continually, virtually all the time. This is true. IMO one thing that contributes to the frustration some fans feel regarding Adam's solo career is that, unlike many of those aforementioned non-arena artists, Adam seems as though he should be an arena artist. His whole performance style, huge voice, charismatic larger-than-life presence and "more is more" aesthetic are such natural fits for that size venue. Even Barry Weiss from RCA said it in the "Behind the Music" special - he's an arena artist. In the immediate post-Idol period, there was a widespread expectation that he would indeed be an arena artist. We can endlessly debate the reasons why it didn't happen, and it doesn't make him a failure that it didn't happen, but I'm not gonna lie - I will always wonder what kind of arena tour he would have put together if he'd had the level of success and the resources to do it. I'm sure there are fans, probably right here, who are just as happy that he doesn't do arena tours, and that's great. And nothing I've said here is meant to disparage his current level of success, which many, many artists would kill to have. But as it stands, I just hope that if he tours for "Velvet", he'll be able to fill the same size venues he has done previously. I agree with what you said. In addition, I don't think QAL slowed Adam's solo career but was there and picked up the slack between labels and tepid label pushes. So grateful for that. It helped him financially and with worldwide attention. Some fans seemed to think QAL was interfering but I don't think that was the case at all. And without QAL and all that exposure, unlike other Idols, I still think Adam would be doing better than club tours with his solo work. He was always more popular and in greater demand than some of those guys. But as much as some don't agree, I think radio play had a major impact in the growth of his career. Barry Weiss was so much in his corner but when he left RCA, there has been no one, at any label, to fight for him the way Barry did. They made sure he was on the radio and heard with his first album. Barry and his entire radio team were gone by his second album. And I believe things would have only gotten better for Adam if Barry had stayed. But glad to hear Q3 say she thinks there are some plans for radio play for Adam. Unless Adam himself says he does not want any (not fans), I am going to continue to hope that he can get some play. His career is long term and great but any additional exposure would be helpful any way you look at it. And it does not mean that any of us fail to recognize how much Adam has achieved because we hope it continues for him. It is not an either or situation.
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Post by nica575 on Jun 2, 2019 10:46:54 GMT -5
This is true. IMO one thing that contributes to the frustration some fans feel regarding Adam's solo career is that, unlike many of those aforementioned non-arena artists, Adam seems as though he should be an arena artist. His whole performance style, huge voice, charismatic larger-than-life presence and "more is more" aesthetic are such natural fits for that size venue. Even Barry Weiss from RCA said it in the "Behind the Music" special - he's an arena artist. In the immediate post-Idol period, there was a widespread expectation that he would indeed be an arena artist. We can endlessly debate the reasons why it didn't happen, and it doesn't make him a failure that it didn't happen, but I'm not gonna lie - I will always wonder what kind of arena tour he would have put together if he'd had the level of success and the resources to do it. I'm sure there are fans, probably right here, who are just as happy that he doesn't do arena tours, and that's great. And nothing I've said here is meant to disparage his current level of success, which many, many artists would kill to have. But as it stands, I just hope that if he tours for "Velvet", he'll be able to fill the same size venues he has done previously. I agree with what you said. In addition, I don't think QAL slowed Adam's solo career but was there and picked up the slack between labels and tepid label pushes. So grateful for that. It helped him financially and with worldwide attention. Some fans seemed to think QAL was interfering but I don't think that was the case at all. And without QAL and all that exposure, unlike other Idols, I still think Adam would be doing better than club tours with his solo work. He was always more popular and in greater demand than some of those guys. But as much as some don't agree, I think radio play had a major impact in the growth of his career. Barry Weiss was so much in his corner but when he left RCA, there has been no one, at any label, to fight for him the way Barry did. They made sure he was on the radio and heard. And I believe things would have only gotten better for Adam if Barry had stayed. But glad to hear Q3 say she thinks there are some plans for radio play for Adam. Unless Adam himself says he does not want any (not fans), I am going to continue to hope that he can get some play. His career is long term and great but any additional exposure would be helpful any way you look at it. And it does not means that any of us fail to recognize how much Adam has achieved because we hope it continues for him. It is not an either or situation. Re “QAL interfering” sentiment that some in the fandom have: I can’t disagree more... to me the multitude of benefits of this utterly symbiotic partnership is so obvious that I find it silly to even start listing them... I have to say that if I had to wait for Adam’s albums without QAL to fill the gaps I am not so sure i’d still be here, even though I am a truly one of the “OG”s (ROF-born)... On the other hand - four albums in ten years is not that bad though, right?
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Post by cheriemelissa on Jun 2, 2019 10:48:02 GMT -5
Couldn't post on yesterday's long conversations on Adam's career, radio play, etc. So just a few thoughts here. I will just say that after ten years, lots of artists' career high points are already over. Adam may only have four albums in ten years, but his solo career has been running parallel with one of the biggest gigs in the music business: front man for Queen. So, he has had to compromise a bit on working on his own music. Quite honestly, he's pretty lucky to be where he is, solo wise, with all the gaps due to QAL. Many singers at the non-arena level (including some AI alums) are always performing somewhere, week after week, year after year. They are on "tour" playing smaller venues continually, virtually all the time. Adam might have been one of the these types of singers, too. (although his fan base tends to be more international). Adam's major career coup was Queen. We'll never know what his solo career would have been like without QAL. He might have been doing the fifty-weeks-a year small venue thing like so many others do. Instead, he has had fewer solo tours but they have been bigger in scope, covering the US and other countries. His non-tour solo performances have been pretty infrequent but quite high-profile, often televised. (Elvis, Cher, etc.) Would we rather have Adam touring fifty weeks a year, every year, in local venues around the US, or would we (and he) prefer fewer, but more high-profile tours? Ideally, to me, I'd love to see him (post QAL) put out an album every couple years and go on an extended tour, like many mid/upper-level artists do. Doesn't have to be arenas. I don't understand anything about radio play or the which Billboard list is the most advantageous to be on, etc. Adam's fanbase is solid and loyal,but it doesn't seem to grow. He gets a few little blips in followers when he does something high-profile but that blip usually drops after a short time. We all want the same thing for him: longevity, respect, solid fan loyalty, media acceptance/exposure. new opportunities along the way, a real use of his talents for the long haul. Somehow. I think he has all of the above and he is financially secure at this point because of Queen. A blessing! I don't think we should worry about Adam's career at all. He's happy and in love!
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Post by cleopatra on Jun 2, 2019 11:05:10 GMT -5
I don't think we should worry about Adam's career at all. He's happy and in love! No disrespect intended at all, but I don't know what Adam being "happy and in love" has to do with a career discussion. There's no way to say this without sounding cold, which I really don't mean to do, but when I talk about Adam's career, I'm generally talking about the public parts that affect the fans, not Adam's level of satisfaction. Of course Adam's feelings are important - it's his life - but I'm not in his head and don't want to project what I think he does and doesn't want. What he may say publicly is not necessarily the full and complete story. But it's really beside any point I may attempt to make. Of course I want Adam to be happy, both personally and professionally. I'm just talking about what some fans (including me, I'll admit it) would have liked to see in his career. However, as it stands, I'll just look forward to whatever this era brings - and, yes, hope however it plays out will please Adam. Hopefully there will be enough goodies to please the fans as well, even without arenas.
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Post by girldrummer on Jun 2, 2019 11:18:24 GMT -5
I agree with the responses here to my post. It's a complicated issue. I don't think that QAL has "interfered" with Adam's solo career. But it did require him to shift his focus each time the QAL tours came around. NOT a bad thing, of course! QAL has been an incredible benefit for Adam and Queen alike. I am thrilled that it happened and is still happening.
I think Adam is attaining that "not just a singer" status. He is interviewed about lots of things, not just music. Yes, QAL does usually remain the major topic of conversation, but that's fine. His huge efforts and influence on QAL's rebirth can't be over-stated. But I think we fans all wonder what the post-QAL years will bring for Adam. I hope that besides his solo music career, he will be active in the media in other ways. Social activism, maybe. Acting. TV. I'd like to see him be a guest on a late night talk show, not simply because he might have music to promote, but because he is Adam Lambert, a smart, humorous, interesting, entertaining person.
BTW, thanks for reminding me about Barry Weiss. I had totally forgotten about. He was definitely in Adam's corner. Adam could always use another Barry Weiss to advocate for him.
And nothing I said in my original post was meant to sound like I don't think he has done very well over the past ten years and still is. I think he's doing great. The ride we are on with him has just taken turns that we never saw coming. We knew it would be a wild ride.
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Post by bamafan on Jun 2, 2019 11:48:52 GMT -5
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Post by bamafan on Jun 2, 2019 11:50:36 GMT -5
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Post by sizzling63 on Jun 2, 2019 11:56:23 GMT -5
Wow that's great to see an increase finally! What do you mean by it's on the "standard" playlist? It was on the PopRightNow playlist before, but was it somehow different than now? The Pop Right Now list you see depends on your music taste. For us it shows New Eyes already, but for others it might not. It seems it moved up on the list so it is visible to the casual listener as well. It popped up on the playlist list for the website I'm using and they don't necessary follow Adam so it was there at least for a while. Or there is some other explanation... We saw that with Feel Something as well that it popped up and out again. "New Eyes" is at the very top of my #PopRightNow playlist currently!! Nice increase , and I even like the songs that follow. NE is still a standout for me though.
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