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Post by willowgarden on Jun 5, 2020 15:57:44 GMT -5
Bama, Rachel usually doesn't take her first breath until the 21-minute mark. She is rather long winded but gets to the point eventually.
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Post by nica575 on Jun 5, 2020 16:03:06 GMT -5
Haven't posted for forever and wish this post was specifically about Adam but it is in a way. In the spirit of openmindedness, I especially want to propose an experiment that could involve buddying up with someone. I want to buddy up with bamafan whom I have loved for over 10 years now. I think we develop more as people when we understand what shapes another person. I watched some of the Tucker Carlson video and maybe by not watching all of it, I came to a wrong conclusion so please correct me if I am wrong. My impression is that at least 80% of the coverage of the protest movements were focused on the 20% (generous number) who are decidedly troublemakers in every way and on those who were more radically calling for defunding the police. By contrast, if you watch liberal media, you will see the opposite ratio. Yes, the violence of the 20% is covered around 20% (sometines more) of the time and 80% of the time is coverage of the stories of the peaceful protests, their interactions in some positive ways with the police such as the lovely video posted of the cop comforting the frightened child who thought he was going to shoot her. Instead of defunding, most of the time the calls are for policies that curb chokeholds and knees to the neck and insist on body cams so there is accountability. Far cry from "we don't need no cops". Of course both networks cover other stories as well that create tension between the partisan divide. So what if someone and their buddy agree for a week to watch Tucker Carlson and Rachel Maddow - both shows. And then talk about it? Are you game bama? Hugs and kisses ETA We could even retro watch the last week in case the emphasis changes but going forward is also good in terms of Covid coverage, policing etc. whatever the buddies agree on and it would be great if several of you paired up since you love me and are sending hugs and kisses my way....lol.....and since Rachel is on during Hannity and not Tucker or Laura......I guess I could stand her for 5 nites. I've watched her in the past with all her Russia collusion conspiracy theories... maybe now she'll be focused on the protests. I'll watch next week and report back. Yes, we on the right are for law and order and I agree that much of the FoxNews TV coverage does show the riots and property damage, etc. I assumed the left madia would prefer to show less of the rioting and looting, etc. so, you're right on that point I think. I see your ETA... If Rachel is on Youtube, I could go back this weekend and watch this previous weeks shows....either way. seems Covid coverage has been forgotten along with social distancing practices with the big group protests. Who knows what topic might emerge next week. So... killing people is “law and order”? Gassing peaceful protesters is “law and order”? there are always criminal element and extremist agitators Making things worse, none of which changes the original narrative... On the lighter side - I couldn’t bring myself to watch Anything on HeWhoCannot amed TV, let alone Tucker... not even that video Adam referred to... you are right, the close contact protests , even majority masked, will bring the new explosion of Covid cases ... all of it is a real tragedy, losing over a hundred thousand Americans should be important to the so called “pro life” party, but for some reason not this time... oh well... there is still hope this democracy will survive...
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Post by bamafan on Jun 5, 2020 16:08:20 GMT -5
Bama, Rachel usually doesn't take her first breath until the 21-minute mark. She is rather long winded but gets to the point eventually. ....lol
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Post by taumbu on Jun 5, 2020 16:13:45 GMT -5
Bama, Rachel usually doesn't take her first breath until the 21-minute mark. She is rather long winded but gets to the point eventually. I agree although she is very smart. I think the experiment is a great idea but why not choose journalists like Nicole Wallace (who worked on John McCain’s campaign) and Chris Wallace who is more conservative. I’m just suggesting the difference between advocacy journalism and opinion journalism. Just a thought.
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Post by LindaG23 on Jun 5, 2020 16:15:10 GMT -5
onetime - The only way to exclusively communicate with someone is by private messaging. When I post on the thread, I assume that everyone can 'hear' me. I also try my best to be explicit with no hints or innuendos. I think deeply about my posts and try to never be hasty or too reactive. I made no comment and intended no reference about racism in my response to you, only about fandom.
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Post by bamafan on Jun 5, 2020 16:21:54 GMT -5
since you love me and are sending hugs and kisses my way....lol.....and since Rachel is on during Hannity and not Tucker or Laura......I guess I could stand her for 5 nites. I've watched her in the past with all her Russia collusion conspiracy theories... maybe now she'll be focused on the protests. I'll watch next week and report back. Yes, we on the right are for law and order and I agree that much of the FoxNews TV coverage does show the riots and property damage, etc. I assumed the left madia would prefer to show less of the rioting and looting, etc. so, you're right on that point I think. I see your ETA... If Rachel is on Youtube, I could go back this weekend and watch this previous weeks shows....either way. seems Covid coverage has been forgotten along with social distancing practices with the big group protests. Who knows what topic might emerge next week. So... killing people is “law and order”? Gassing peaceful protesters is “law and order”? there are always criminal element and extremist agitators Making things worse, none of which changes the original narrative... On the lighter side - I couldn’t bring myself to watch Anything on HeWhoCannot amed TV, let alone Tucker... not even that video Adam referred to... you are right, the close contact protests , even majority masked, will bring the new explosion of Covid cases ... all of it is a real tragedy, losing over a hundred thousand Americans should be important to the so called “pro life” party, but for some reason not this time... oh well... there is still hope this democracy will survive... On the other hand.....maybe all the protestors crammed together will not explode Covid 19 and that might be a good thing as far as looking ahead to re opening and moving ahead economically. No. killing innocent people isn't law and order. George Floyd's killing was a murder plane and simple. I don't necessarily think defunding police is the answer, but better training and a re-vamping of police depts would be a good thing. And I think peaceful protests as outlined in the constitution are great. It's the criminal destruction and looting that takes advantage of the peaceful protests that are a problem and thev have to be dealt with. The rioting is undermining the focus of the unjustices.
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Post by adamrocks on Jun 5, 2020 16:27:13 GMT -5
I think you are being reckless calling ceecee a racist. she and I share many beliefs and that doesn't make either of us racists. Let's try and keep discussions on topics rather than name calling. I am sorry about the topics I was only communicating with LindaG23. According to a name calling I think ceecee must be honest with herself why she is offended by Adam and educate herself what a racist means. Onetime I find your comments way out line to be telling another member here what, you think, she is and what she should do. It is, to me, very condescending and disrespectful of another person's opinions. I have not commented here on the events happening but I respect everyone's right to speak their opinions here (even if they are maybe not the same as mine) and to be able to feel comfortable and have a productive dialogue with other members whose opinions might disagree with them without being ridiculed. Name calling does nothing to help promote understanding and finding common ground where people can work together to make change for the greater good.
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Post by nica575 on Jun 5, 2020 16:28:55 GMT -5
Bama, Rachel usually doesn't take her first breath until the 21-minute mark. She is rather long winded but gets to the point eventually. I agree although she is very smart. I think the experiment is a great idea but why not choose journalists like Nicole Wallace (who worked on John McCain’s campaign) and Chris Wallace who is more conservative. I’m just suggesting the difference between advocacy journalism and opinion journalism. Just a thought. Rachel is a national treasure. She doesn’t just talk, she effects change, she effects progress, she shines the light... Nicole Wallace is pretty good - I like the fact that she saw the light. Chris Wallace needs to do the same, he is too intelligent to be there... but I guess it pays his bills....
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Post by svca on Jun 5, 2020 16:30:08 GMT -5
So... killing people is “law and order”? Gassing peaceful protesters is “law and order”? there are always criminal element and extremist agitators Making things worse, none of which changes the original narrative... On the lighter side - I couldn’t bring myself to watch Anything on HeWhoCannot amed TV, let alone Tucker... not even that video Adam referred to... you are right, the close contact protests , even majority masked, will bring the new explosion of Covid cases ... all of it is a real tragedy, losing over a hundred thousand Americans should be important to the so called “pro life” party, but for some reason not this time... oh well... there is still hope this democracy will survive... On the other hand.....maybe all the protestors crammed together will not explode Covid 19 and that might be a good thing as far as looking ahead to re opening and moving ahead economically. No. killing innocent people isn't law and order. George Floyd's killing was a murder plane and simple. I don't necessarily think defunding police is the answer, but better training and a re-vamping of police depts would be a good thing. And I think peaceful protests as outlined in the constitution are great. It's the criminal destruction and looting that takes advantage of the peaceful protests that are a problem that thev have to be dealt with. The rioting is undermining the focus of the unjustices. I agree with this. Defunding police is definitely not the answer. But we definitely need better training, and a better vetting process. Like hubby's dad, ex-police chief, said...not everybody is cut out to be a cop. When the cops are more of a menace than the criminals, I would agree with that assessment. I also agree that the people who are looting and destroying property are undermining the peaceful protesters. But maybe that's the idea.
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Post by girldrummer on Jun 5, 2020 16:35:03 GMT -5
Very good review of Velvet! Thanks for posting this! Velvet has gotten almost universal good reviews. The key songs have gotten good write-ups individually and have been streamed and viewed pretty darn well, IMO. This was to be Adam's most truly personal album and he succeeded magnificently. Then, like so many other artists, he couldn't do his full promo and really get the album out there full-force. No one's fault. Just happened. But the Velvet songs are still great and with luck we will hear them sung live in all their glory sooner than later. Good luck to those who are being challenged to listen to opposing political commentary shows. It can be eye-opening yet very uncomfortable. Living in our own comfort zones all the times teaches us nothing. Our brain needs a good shake-up every now and then.
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