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Post by stampsgal on Jun 5, 2020 18:40:10 GMT -5
Thanks for posting this. Not only did I agree with the writer's review of Adam's album, but also with his review of Gaga's. With Velvet, Adam finally hit on a signature sound, but it's a signature sound in the service of many different musical styles and moods. I'm not expecting award recognition for it because it just isn't going to make that kind of commercial impact - unless it's submitted and effectively promoted to a far less competitive genre category than pop - but that doesn't change that it's a very accomplished, and very artistically mature, piece of work. As for the political discussion, all I'm going to say is that I'm very proud of Adam. As Meggy Meg put it so aptly, this is not about whether pineapple belongs on a pizza. Or if his facial hair is flattering. Or whether we like what he's wearing. He's put up with a lot of intrusiveness and rudeness and unsolicited criticism about his appearance, his personal relationships and his career decisions without lowering the hammer. But this time his tipping point was reached, and IMO he has every right to decide what he is, or is not, willing to tolerate. Thanks to deb5anne for posting the reviews!!! Awesome read and find. And thank you cleopatra for your post. Made me want to post about appreciating the read on your reflective thoughts and framing Meggy Meg's post too. Both posts made me "feel" more positive about the read on the thread, and just in general!
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Post by sizzling63 on Jun 5, 2020 19:03:21 GMT -5
since you love me and are sending hugs and kisses my way....lol.....and since Rachel is on during Hannity and not Tucker or Laura......I guess I could stand her for 5 nites. I've watched her in the past with all her Russia collusion conspiracy theories... maybe now she'll be focused on the protests. I'll watch next week and report back. Yes, we on the right are for law and order and I agree that much of the FoxNews TV coverage does show the riots and property damage, etc. I assumed the left madia would prefer to show less of the rioting and looting, etc. so, you're right on that point I think. I see your ETA... If Rachel is on Youtube, I could go back this weekend and watch this previous weeks shows....either way. seems Covid coverage has been forgotten along with social distancing practices with the big group protests. Who knows what topic might emerge next week. So... killing people is “law and order”? Gassing peaceful protesters is “law and order”? there are always criminal element and extremist agitators Making things worse, none of which changes the original narrative... On the lighter side - I couldn’t bring myself to watch Anything on HeWhoCannot amed TV, let alone Tucker... not even that video Adam referred to... you are right, the close contact protests , even majority masked, will bring the new explosion of Covid cases ... all of it is a real tragedy, losing over a hundred thousand Americans should be important to the so called “pro life” party, but for some reason not this time... oh well... there is still hope this democracy will survive... I need to chime in on this one... bamafan , "Yes, we on the right are for law and order..." rubs me the wrong way as I can only see it as a populist term that the orange one on top uses way too often to rile up his fan base. May be it is time to wonder why in the past few years these words have popped up way too many times. What are those who call for it so afraid of? I think we need to go a bit deeper and figure out why masses on the streets feel the need to get their voices heard. I see this largely peaceful movement as much needed, and the couple days of looting on the sidelines should not take away from it. Not sure what weighs greater, property damage caused due to riots or thousands of lives of the black community lost due to police brutality. I am against violence too, but let's see if from both sides.
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Post by pi on Jun 5, 2020 19:06:13 GMT -5
Haven't posted for forever and wish this post was specifically about Adam but it is in a way. In the spirit of openmindedness, I especially want to propose an experiment that could involve buddying up with someone. I want to buddy up with bamafan whom I have loved for over 10 years now. I think we develop more as people when we understand what shapes another person. I watched some of the Tucker Carlson video and maybe by not watching all of it, I came to a wrong conclusion so please correct me if I am wrong. My impression is that at least 80% of the coverage of the protest movements were focused on the 20% (generous number) who are decidedly troublemakers in every way and on those who were more radically calling for defunding the police. By contrast, if you watch liberal media, you will see the opposite ratio. Yes, the violence of the 20% is covered around 20% (sometines more) of the time and 80% of the time is coverage of the stories of the peaceful protests, their interactions in some positive ways with the police such as the lovely video posted of the cop comforting the frightened child who thought he was going to shoot her. Instead of defunding, most of the time the calls are for policies that curb chokeholds and knees to the neck and insist on body cams so there is accountability. Far cry from "we don't need no cops". Of course both networks cover other stories as well that create tension between the partisan divide. So what if someone and their buddy agree for a week to watch Tucker Carlson and Rachel Maddow - both shows. And then talk about it? since you love me and are sending hugs and kisses my way....lol.....and since Rachel is on during Hannity and not Tucker or Laura......I guess I could stand her for 5 nites. I've watched her in the past with all her Russia collusion conspiracy theories... maybe now she'll be focused on the protests. I'll watch next week and report back. Yes, we on the right are for law and order and I agree that much of the FoxNews TV coverage does show the riots and property damage, etc. I assumed the left madia would prefer to show less of the rioting and looting, etc. so, you're right on that point I think. I've watched the Rachel Maddow show and her show seems pretty fact based to me, backing up what she says with facts, not conspiracy theories. Although she will point out conspiracy theories that others spout, and probably their origins as well.
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Post by svca on Jun 5, 2020 19:07:39 GMT -5
TMZ just reviewed Brian's gardening accident. It was funny. They're my guilty pleasure and I need a few laughs. cleopatra I haven't said much because I would rather not get into politics on this site. I would prefer to celebrate Adam. I agree with everything you said and do support his position all the way. I think he just reached his breaking point. Apparently he also unfriended Tommy. Couple of other sites were talking about it. In the meantime I support Adam but prefer to discuss my politics elsewhere. Glad folks are reading the review in the Washington Blade. I hope Shosh will find a way to promote Velvet for awards season. It deserves it. Ooh, I was wondering if that was going to happen...I've read some of Tommy's twitter stuff. I'm with you about preferring my politics elsewhere, but it seems difficult to get away from it these days.
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Post by pi on Jun 5, 2020 19:08:01 GMT -5
twitter.com/WashBlade/status/1268965893742231552Adam Lambert Velvet (***1/2) Empire Distribution An album you might have missed (somehow I did) that dropped in late March is the new Adam Lambert project “Velvet,” the gay “American Idol” runner-up’s fourth. Lambert here manages to hit that sonic sweet spot where the production sounds both retro yet uber contemporary. There’s a funky, groovy, ’70s/Stax vibe here but also a 2020-kind of top coat on everything that sounds utterly of the moment. Stylistically it’s still varied. “Superpower” is slutty and all attitude, “Loverboy” is a neo-disco shuffle, “Comin’ in Hot” is slinky and skanky and “Love Don’t” is a gritty rocker. “Ready to Run” has rock swagger and gospel organ accents. First single “Roses,” a duet with Nile Rodgers (of Chic) has lovely hooks and atmosphere to spare. It’s a romantic kiss-off to a lover who offers gestures but little else. There are only a handful of slow songs, a straightforward piano ballad (“Closer to You”) and closer “Feel Something,” the album’s only pensive, moody moment. Only occasionally and fleetingly does Lambert fumble — a weak chorus on “New Eyes,” a couple spots where the hooks aren’t quite enough to undergird the swagger and energy, but even then, Lambert’s shimmering whale of a voice — his calling card — is enough to sustain pleasure throughout. This is my summer car album for sure.
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Post by svca on Jun 5, 2020 19:09:05 GMT -5
since you love me and are sending hugs and kisses my way....lol.....and since Rachel is on during Hannity and not Tucker or Laura......I guess I could stand her for 5 nites. I've watched her in the past with all her Russia collusion conspiracy theories... maybe now she'll be focused on the protests. I'll watch next week and report back. Yes, we on the right are for law and order and I agree that much of the FoxNews TV coverage does show the riots and property damage, etc. I assumed the left madia would prefer to show less of the rioting and looting, etc. so, you're right on that point I think. I've watched the Rachel Maddow show and her show seems pretty fact based to me, backing up what she says with facts, not conspiracy theories. Although she will point out conspiracy theories that others spout, and probably their origins as well. This. She's also incredibly smart. But I do agree that she's long winded lol.
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Post by sizzling63 on Jun 5, 2020 19:17:47 GMT -5
I’ve thought long and hard about whether to put my two cents in, but here it is. I truly don’t understand how apparently loving and caring people can listen to HeWhoCannot amed and believe in or agree with most of what he says. Don’t they hear the lies? Hear him saying something and then denying he even said it, when it’s right there for all to see? How do they reconcile comments like “You can grab them by the pussy”? How can they tolerate the reversal of regulations that are necessary (because corporations might not do it voluntarily) to preserve the environment? Do they really think that HeWhoCannot amed, a rich and privileged person with a history of cheating people, cares about them as anything other than a means to his hold on power? I don’t get it. To bring it back to Adam, I’m glad he’s speaking his mind and trying to give voice to people who haven’t always been heard. He is very good at one thing only... creating a populist agenda. He is a terrible cheater and not even a good liar, but his clan is blind, deaf, and forgiving. He is not a democrat, he is an autocrat, and we should all be on high alert and make our voices heard. I too am proud of Adam for doing his part.
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Post by sizzling63 on Jun 5, 2020 19:26:11 GMT -5
Thanks for posting this. Not only did I agree with the writer's review of Adam's album, but also with his review of Gaga's. I've listened to Chromatica, and liked it, but doubt I'll listen to it straight through again anytime soon. To me the overall effect was that it was one long song; kind of like eating too much candy at one sitting. I mention that because it makes for an interesting contrast with Velvet. Gaga has a sound that is very much her own, but on Chromatica the songs are relatively minor variations on the same sonic theme. With Velvet, Adam finally hit on a signature sound, but it's a signature sound in the service of many different musical styles and moods. I'm not expecting award recognition for it because it just isn't going to make that kind of commercial impact - unless it's submitted and effectively promoted to a far less competitive genre category than pop - but that doesn't change that it's a very accomplished, and very artistically mature, piece of work. As for the political discussion, all I'm going to say is that I'm very proud of Adam. I know there are those wounded by his "unfollow me/I will block" ultimatum to some of his commenters (or those who agree with said commenters), but I think the whole BLM movement hits on a "lines in the sand" issue that he just can't compromise on. It hits too close to home for him. Besides the fact that he has many dear friends who are black men - and besides the fact that the disproportionate instances of police brutality against black men should be an abomination to anyone - he himself is a gay Jew; a member of two groups with their own history of experiencing violent oppression. I suspect he would not be able to maintain an actual personal relationship with anyone who did not substantially agree with his views on these issues, so it makes sense he would not have any desire to see or interact with fans who do not. As Meggy Meg put it so aptly, this is not about whether pineapple belongs on a pizza. Or if his facial hair is flattering. Or whether we like what he's wearing. He's put up with a lot of intrusiveness and rudeness and unsolicited criticism about his appearance, his personal relationships and his career decisions without lowering the hammer. But this time his tipping point was reached, and IMO he has every right to decide what he is, or is not, willing to tolerate. Great post. I agree that what's going on right now must hit home for Adam on many levels. Ironic that the current protests are happening during Pride month.
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Post by pi on Jun 5, 2020 19:32:33 GMT -5
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Post by Melisende on Jun 5, 2020 19:37:39 GMT -5
Adam has seldom talked about politics in the many years I've been a fan, so when he does, I know it's because he feels very strongly about the issue. I respect him all the more for doing so. Pink has been even more vocal about not caring if she loses fans because they don't agree with her politically. In response to someone who said she'd lose half her fanbase she tweeted: "If you didn’t know I was about equality twenty years ago, forty years ago, that’s your fault not mine. You’re surprised I stand up for what is right? Not my problem. If you don’t want to come to my concerts or buy my records because I believe in equality and think HeWhoCannot amed is the Worst “president” in the history of this country..... because I’m not racist and respect women? DONT LET THE DOOR HIT YOU ON YOUR A**. People who love HeWhoCannot amed at this point are an insult to humanity, goodness and human rights. And there’s less and less of them every single day. I put what’s right in front of my career ANY DAY. I’ve done just fine. All that can wait." Have to say I agree with her and as a Canadian am increasingly horrified at what I see happening in the US.
But's that's not what I came to post about. I wondered if anyone had any updates about Adam's solo tour in Europe in Sept.? I still have tickets to 3 shows there but have no idea if I can even fly there by Sept.
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