4.26.11 Adam News & Info

[lulu2365]

Apr 26, 2011 21:45:30 GMT -5 NoAngel said:

Well, I think this rant had been building for a while, and was clearly written in the heat of the moment. I appreciate his complete honesty. And yeah, it had to have been insanely hard for Brad once Adam went on Idol. I can only imagine how many times he's been approached to tell the "real story" of Adam, both by tabloids offering cold hard cash, and perhaps by "friends" or acquaintances who just want gossip to spread.

I really think Adam's circle has been incredibly good at protecting him and keeping info about him private. I also suspect that all of his friends with their own art to sell/promote are well aware that they gain interest by being friends of Adam.

Adam himself referred to this in his twitter party. Really, really tough balancing act, and I think for the most part his friends have handled it with as much respect and dignity as is possible.

What I don't understand is why Cheeks has turned into an information commerical all of a sudden. He just attacked that person when they asked what had changed.

I appreciate it was hard when that crap with the photos came out that was two years ago. People follow Cheeks for his sense of humour.

"Time is not why. Lack of interest is why. If Adam Lambert tweeted a link, you’d have the link bookmarked before he hit send on the tweet. You know it. I know it. Everyone reading this knows it."

"I’m honest with myself about the fact that a lot of people are only looking at my feed in the hope that I’ll tweet how good it finally feels to have Adam’s tongue down my throat again. That’s ok, too. They are not why I do what I do."

Why did He feel it necessary to Attack fans who found him because of Adam but stayed because of "sparkly personally that has now turned into a commercial instead of whitty youtubes.

I don't tweet Cheeks but I always followed and watched his stuff. So because He wouldn't know my name I;m a fair weather fan. I don't get where the anger is coming from. :-/

Adam's anger this morning is a completely different story. He was out and out stalked and his personal space invaded. :(

[melliemom]

I just had a flash back to when Neil ranted about all of Adam's fans following him on his Negative Neil blog and how he wanted his own fans. Fans who were there to read his take on life ,not there to get a glimmer of their real love,ADAM.He actually stopped writing.The sad thing is that Neil is a wonderful tongue in cheek,excuse the pun, writer and I really miss his work.

The thing that both Neil and cheeks don't seem to appreciate ,is that fans are fans no matter how you get them!!!

[FanOfTheMan]

Apr 26, 2011 22:08:40 GMT -5 cookie said:

Apr 26, 2011 21:45:30 GMT -5 NoAngel said:

Well, I think this rant had been building for a while, and was clearly written in the heat of the moment. I appreciate his complete honesty. And yeah, it had to have been insanely hard for Brad once Adam went on Idol. I can only imagine how many times he's been approached to tell the "real story" of Adam, both by tabloids offering cold hard cash, and perhaps by "friends" or acquaintances who just want gossip to spread.

I really think Adam's circle has been incredibly good at protecting him and keeping info about him private. I also suspect that all of his friends with their own art to sell/promote are well aware that they gain interest by being friends of Adam.

Adam himself referred to this in his twitter party. Really, really tough balancing act, and I think for the most part his friends have handled it with as much respect and dignity as is possible.

I was thinking about Adam's response during the twitter party to the question about how he felt about the fans being so interested in his friends and family, and his ambivalent response about being happy to help his friends but finding it a challenge to find the right balance. And I agree that Cheeks response seems to be a gut-level, in the moment reaction to months of frustration. I've always admired his loyalty to Adam- he could have easily furthered his own ambitions by talking about Adam. Many of Adam's friends have seen their profiles raised based on that friendship. But I didn't really think about how Cheeks was the only one who got drawn into the weird space of having his own history played out in a national discussion without him. Again, using Neil as a reference point since he's been so outspoken, Neil talks about his discomfort with seeing his family's photos casually posted all over the internet and used as people's avi's. I think I remember Cheeks saying that sometimes when he sees those old pictures of Adam from when they were together that its like looking at a ghost.

I don't know why I'm feeling all word-y about this. But I'm feeling a whole lot of compassion for both Adam and Cheeks today about the challenges of living an authentic life in the middle of all the craziness.

I have to say that I think there are many Adam fans like me who knew nothing about Cheeks except that he is an ex-boyfriend of Adam - until this rant.
I hope he means what he says about not bringing Adam up again. Sounds like he blames Adam for all his problems. Why should Adam be made to feel bad because his ex-boyfriend is feeling a bit of the notoriety that Adam deals with bigtime every day.

I'm sure he has benefitted from the exposure and judging from what I read here, he has gained many of Adam's fans as his own.
So my advice to him - no more pity parties or blame - pull up your big boy drawers and roll with the punches, just as Adam does.
*hides*

[melliemom]

Apr 26, 2011 22:32:17 GMT -5 FanOfTheMan said:

Apr 26, 2011 22:08:40 GMT -5 cookie said:

I was thinking about Adam's response during the twitter party to the question about how he felt about the fans being so interested in his friends and family, and his ambivalent response about being happy to help his friends but finding it a challenge to find the right balance. And I agree that Cheeks response seems to be a gut-level, in the moment reaction to months of frustration. I've always admired his loyalty to Adam- he could have easily furthered his own ambitions by talking about Adam. Many of Adam's friends have seen their profiles raised based on that friendship. But I didn't really think about how Cheeks was the only one who got drawn into the weird space of having his own history played out in a national discussion without him. Again, using Neil as a reference point since he's been so outspoken, Neil talks about his discomfort with seeing his family's photos casually posted all over the internet and used as people's avi's. I think I remember Cheeks saying that sometimes when he sees those old pictures of Adam from when they were together that its like looking at a ghost.

I don't know why I'm feeling all word-y about this. But I'm feeling a whole lot of compassion for both Adam and Cheeks today about the challenges of living an authentic life in the middle of all the craziness.

I have to say that I think there are many Adam fans like me who knew nothing about Cheeks except that he is an ex-boyfriend of Adam - until this rant.
I hope he means what he says about not bringing Adam up again. Sounds like he blames Adam for all his problems. Why should Adam be made to feel bad because his ex-boyfriend is feeling a bit of the notoriety that Adam deals with bigtime every day.

I'm sure he has benefitted from the exposure and judging from what I read here, he has gained many of Adam's fans as his own.
So my advice to him - no more pity parties or blame - pull up your big boy drawers and roll with the punches, just as Adam does.
*hides*

No ducking.. right on

[Deleted]

Apr 26, 2011 19:14:00 GMT -5 lindy said:

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[adamrocks]

Apr 26, 2011 22:16:55 GMT -5 @lulu2365 said:

What I don't understand is why Cheeks has turned into an information commerical all of a sudden. He just attacked that person when they asked what had changed.

I appreciate it was hard when that crap with the photos came out that was two years ago. People follow Cheeks for his sense of humour.

"Time is not why. Lack of interest is why. If Adam Lambert tweeted a link, you’d have the link bookmarked before he hit send on the tweet. You know it. I know it. Everyone reading this knows it."

"I’m honest with myself about the fact that a lot of people are only looking at my feed in the hope that I’ll tweet how good it finally feels to have Adam’s tongue down my throat again. That’s ok, too. They are not why I do what I do."

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Why did He feel it necessary to Attack fans who found him because of Adam but stayed because of "sparkly personally that has now turned into a commercial instead of whitty youtubes.

I don't tweet Cheeks but I always followed and watched his stuff. So because He wouldn't know my name I;m a fair weather fan. I don't get where the anger is coming from. :-/

Adam's anger this morning is a completely different story. He was out and out stalked and his personal space invaded. :(


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I never really followed Cheeks but enjoyed what people here brought over and found him intellegent and witty. But I have to say the above highlighted quotes seemed rather harsh as it related to Adam. I can appreciate his frustration but I was surprised and a little taken back by the biting anger. JMO.

[kittykay]

Apr 26, 2011 22:16:55 GMT -5 @lulu2365 said:

Apr 26, 2011 21:45:30 GMT -5 NoAngel said:

Well, I think this rant had been building for a while, and was clearly written in the heat of the moment. I appreciate his complete honesty. And yeah, it had to have been insanely hard for Brad once Adam went on Idol. I can only imagine how many times he's been approached to tell the "real story" of Adam, both by tabloids offering cold hard cash, and perhaps by "friends" or acquaintances who just want gossip to spread.

I really think Adam's circle has been incredibly good at protecting him and keeping info about him private. I also suspect that all of his friends with their own art to sell/promote are well aware that they gain interest by being friends of Adam.

Adam himself referred to this in his twitter party. Really, really tough balancing act, and I think for the most part his friends have handled it with as much respect and dignity as is possible.

What I don't understand is why Cheeks has turned into an information commerical all of a sudden. He just attacked that person when they asked what had changed.

I appreciate it was hard when that crap with the photos came out that was two years ago. People follow Cheeks for his sense of humour.

"Time is not why. Lack of interest is why. If Adam Lambert tweeted a link, you’d have the link bookmarked before he hit send on the tweet. You know it. I know it. Everyone reading this knows it."

"I’m honest with myself about the fact that a lot of people are only looking at my feed in the hope that I’ll tweet how good it finally feels to have Adam’s tongue down my throat again. That’s ok, too. They are not why I do what I do."

Why did He feel it necessary to Attack fans who found him because of Adam but stayed because of "sparkly personally that has now turned into a commercial instead of whitty youtubes.

I don't tweet Cheeks but I always followed and watched his stuff. So because He wouldn't know my name I;m a fair weather fan. I don't get where the anger is coming from. :-/

Adam's anger this morning is a completely different story. He was out and out stalked and his personal space invaded. :(

I was a big fan of cheeks from the beginning. There was so much hatred towards him because "How dare he break Adam's heart". He was accused of leaking the "scandalous photos" for his own fame. When the reality was Adam forgot to remove them from his Friendster page. I read on another site about hate sent directly to Brad because he had made the comment to Adam via his PRIVATE facebook to "Trim the Fat". These fans accused him of calling Adam fat on a forum they had no business being on in the first place. (This was Dec 2010 - not the past)

I have the utmost respect for Brad. He could have easily sold his story about Adam at many points and never has. He would be better known now if he had. How different would Adam's idol journey have been if at Top 13 week Brad was all over TV showing private pictures and telling the intimate details of their lives? Would we have gotten to know Adam? Would America have let him through? Would Brad be on a Reality Show now if he had started talking to tabs about Adam as Adam's fame increased? Everyone around Adam has benefitted from secondary fame. Danielle and Brad are the only two who haven't capitalized on it IMO. How many of us could be so civil and supportive with/ about an "Ex"?

[mischa]

Apr 26, 2011 21:01:32 GMT -5 @lulu2365 said:

Apr 26, 2011 20:54:52 GMT -5 NoAngel said:

Wow, talk about keeping it real, check out the blog entry Cheeks just tweeted. I've got total respect for the guy.

@gocheeksgo
With that established, here is something I've never said until now & will never say again: bit.ly/ebYiSH

I love Cheeks too. I just don't understand the personally change the last couple weeks.

I don't care He's linking to a website instead of youtube, but on twitter He just doesn't seem like himself.

I'm not a worrier or analyzer when it comes to other people's lives, but I admit to the same confusion. The reason it concerned me was it came on the heels of a hospital visit that he laughed about and blew off, but it also followed a very long holiday visit with his family.
None of my business, but sometimes events in our lives make us re-evaluate how we use our time, talents, and influence.

[rabbitrabbit]

Apr 26, 2011 22:16:55 GMT -5 @lulu2365 said:

Apr 26, 2011 21:45:30 GMT -5 NoAngel said:

Well, I think this rant had been building for a while, and was clearly written in the heat of the moment. I appreciate his complete honesty. And yeah, it had to have been insanely hard for Brad once Adam went on Idol. I can only imagine how many times he's been approached to tell the "real story" of Adam, both by tabloids offering cold hard cash, and perhaps by "friends" or acquaintances who just want gossip to spread.

I really think Adam's circle has been incredibly good at protecting him and keeping info about him private. I also suspect that all of his friends with their own art to sell/promote are well aware that they gain interest by being friends of Adam.

Adam himself referred to this in his twitter party. Really, really tough balancing act, and I think for the most part his friends have handled it with as much respect and dignity as is possible.

What I don't understand is why Cheeks has turned into an information commerical all of a sudden. He just attacked that person when they asked what had changed.

I appreciate it was hard when that crap with the photos came out that was two years ago. People follow Cheeks for his sense of humour.

"Time is not why. Lack of interest is why. If Adam Lambert tweeted a link, you’d have the link bookmarked before he hit send on the tweet. You know it. I know it. Everyone reading this knows it."

"I’m honest with myself about the fact that a lot of people are only looking at my feed in the hope that I’ll tweet how good it finally feels to have Adam’s tongue down my throat again. That’s ok, too. They are not why I do what I do."

Why did He feel it necessary to Attack fans who found him because of Adam but stayed because of "sparkly personally that has now turned into a commercial instead of whitty youtubes.

I don't tweet Cheeks but I always followed and watched his stuff. So because He wouldn't know my name I;m a fair weather fan. I don't get where the anger is coming from. :-/

Adam's anger this morning is a completely different story. He was out and out stalked and his personal space invaded. :(

Yeah, I think unfortunately, two issues got conflated in his rant, which were maybe connected in his mind, but maybe not quite so much to others.

a) He has been slowly losing twitter followers (not many, but a steady trickle of about 100 since mid-March) since launching his new site and changing his online persona/communication a bit. Both on his new site, and through twitter, some people have told him their confused or put-off by certain aspects of his site -- this may be the natural turbulence of any kind of transition in a community built around a cult of personality rather than a specific product.

He generally answers that it is under construction/in beta or he and other commentors answer a bit defensively and dismissively. I think the criticism has been getting to him, hence his rant directed at a particular message.

b) A huge chunk of his followers are probably initially from his association with Adam. It doesn't however necessarily follow that the people giving him feedback he doesn't like are only following because they are waiting for him to drop info about Adam.

I would rather think that they are the ones most invested in following him for himself, and therefore actually invested in commenting/giving feedback when something isn't working about his site for them.

I think Cheeks is thoughtful, and witty, a good writer, and many other great things. I don't think he's necessarily figured out how to offer value and eventually make money through his brand on his website yet though, and I feel like this approach to his critics isn't a great business practice IMO--it feels to much to me like airing personal hurt about the dynamics of having a famous ex, which is what people are discussing, rather than his point that you should participate and get involved in his site if you want him to take your feedback seriously.

JMMV

[skylar]

Apr 26, 2011 21:42:25 GMT -5 melliemom said:

IMHO Cheeks seems very hurt and he seems to be feeling very used. The pictures of Cheeks and Adam are still up on the net,so Cheeks has an infamous Fame that he certainly didn't seek.He is his own person and he deserves respect. I get it.

I feel bad for Adam too,because so many others are riding his coattails,IMO Scarlett and that crew are sometimes OTT in using Adam. It's a tough business and people's feelings are often the first to be disregarded & trampled on.

In a way I feel bad that Cheeks seems to blame Adam's success for causing his pain. It's the fame game and it's not always fair.Ask Neil,

Sauli, Adam's parents and friends how Adam's fame has changed their lives. It is what it is. I love Adam and want all the riches,success and happiness for him.. so I can only stand back and think how lucky all of Adam's intimates are to know him and love him ,in spite of the inconvenience of losing a bit of their own lives.

Cheeks is smart and super sensitive. Definitely a response to Adam's tweet about sharing his fans with his friends. IMHO Cheeks is saying that he is not one of those friends that is riding Adam's fandom coat tails. That it hasn't been easy from his side either and if you are a fair weather Cheeks bird watcher, watch but don't make condescending dissociated disrespectful comments. He's also letting Adam and everyone know that he knows that a lot of those people following him were following him out of curiosity and intrigue because of Adam and not because of who he is. People will continue to drop off from following Cheeks and hopefully there will be a great point where the followers that are left are the truly loyal core. This surge and then sloughing has to be an emotional rollercoaster. I love Cheeks. I don't follow him closely but I respect how he has handled everything from the start.