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Post by cookie on Apr 26, 2011 23:34:56 GMT -5
Fame (no matter how you get it) is a little like childbirth. Those who have experienced it can tell you all about it, but until you actually experience it yourself, you cannot realize how hard it actually is to live with. If you can't stand the fame once you have it, don't twitter, don't go out, don't have meet and greets, don't respond to fan mail, live your life in a bubble. Lots of famous people leave the country, move to Montana, don't go clubbing every night, stay in. Lots of celebrities live quiet little lives only to be heard from when they make a record or movie. They live very private lives. They totally ignore fans but continue to make money and live the good life because they were blessed with a talent that attracts the attention of people (fans). Bottom line to all the stars, celebrities, rich people, and all well-known good for nothings who are famous: Quit your bitchin' Too harsh? Sorry. But I think of the thousands of people with talent who never make it and would give anything to be in your shoes. It is hard to feel sorry for anyone who is rich and famous. We all have to live with the cards we are dealt. Most of us live with bigger problems than being rich and well-known. But in Cheeks case he is neither rich nor particularly famous. |
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Post by FanOfTheMan on Apr 26, 2011 23:36:23 GMT -5
I wonder if Adam has seen Cheeks rant and how it makes him feel...given Adam's caring nature? I would hope that Adam never sees it. But that's not realistic. It probably hurt Adam and I think that's a shame. It makes me hurt for Adam. Wonder if Cheeks thought about his friend's feelings before he went on his self-serving rant. >:( |
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Post by NoAngel on Apr 26, 2011 23:40:51 GMT -5
Fame (no matter how you get it) is a little like childbirth. Those who have experienced it can tell you all about it, but until you actually experience it yourself, you cannot realize how hard it actually is to live with. If you can't stand the fame once you have it, don't twitter, don't go out, don't have meet and greets, don't respond to fan mail, live your life in a bubble. Lots of famous people leave the country, move to Montana, don't go clubbing every night, stay in. Lots of celebrities live quiet little lives only to be heard from when they make a record or movie. They live very private lives. They totally ignore fans but continue to make money and live the good life because they were blessed with a talent that attracts the attention of people (fans). Bottom line to all the stars, celebrities, rich people, and all well-known good for nothings who are famous: Quit your bitchin' Too harsh? Sorry. But I think of the thousands of people with talent who never make it and would give anything to be in your shoes. It is hard to feel sorry for anyone who is rich and famous. We all have to live with the cards we are dealt. Most of us live with bigger problems than being rich and well-known. I hear what you're saying, and yes, to a point, I agree that there is a price to fame. Adam seems to know that and is pondering what it means, now that his life has changed completely. But sorry, why should famous people have to live their life in a bubble? Is it too much to expect that fans should just be fans without grossly overstepping all bounds of decency? As many have said, if someone touched MY face, they'd get a head-rocking slap in return. That is just not ok. And I'm not famous, LOL. Decent human behavior applies. Just because someone is famous, doesn't give assholes with no boundaries a free pass to use them for their own gratification. JMHO YMMV etc etc.  |
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Post by mischa on Apr 26, 2011 23:49:41 GMT -5
I'm not sure I agree with your last statement, in a nice way, because it's kind of like being in high school and having lots of girlfriends because your brother's hot! In the beginning it's flattering, but when something occurs and you stop to think who your REAL friends are, it can be an eye opener. True but it's not your brother's fault that he is hot. Love it.... Touche ! |
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Post by lynne on Apr 26, 2011 23:54:53 GMT -5
We do all live with the cards we are dealt, but we live with them in different ways, neither of which is inherently right or wrong, IMHO. Some of us choose to just keep gutting through whatever our circumstances bring to us, and that is admirable and builds endurance and strength, but some choose to use their strength to take the cards and rearrange and act on the hands they were dealt, and that is admirable as well. Probably the best combination to have in life is the right balance of each of these coping styles- combined with the intelligence and wisdom to know when to fight against challenging life circumstances and when to ride them out. I think that balance takes about a lifetime to learn.  |
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Post by wal on Apr 26, 2011 23:58:59 GMT -5
adamlambert Adam Lambert Question: what do you all want me to write a song about ? curious to read what u wanna hear about. 4 minutes ago
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Post by Catzmadam on Apr 27, 2011 0:04:31 GMT -5
Its interesting that we all read such different things into Cheeks' words. I thought he said pretty clearly that he enjoys all his fans, no matter how they found him. His frustration was with people who only hang around on the off chance that he will let a personal detail about Adam slip. I also didn't think he was angry at Adam. I think he was saying that it's weird to have his past, the one he has so carefully said nothing about, be so public without his permission or participation. People interested in Adam, whether because they love him or hate him, have thrown the photo album of his life into the public conversation. They've seen him in drag. They've seen him nearly naked. They've seen him with Adam's tongue down his throat. Bill O'Reilly used that picture on television. But in many quarters he's still pretty anonymous- which leads to his comment about having a waiting audience but not being famous. and it happened because someone he once loved went on television in hopes of getting better roles in theater. And add to that he's got fans who think they have a better idea about what he should or should not be doing next. Or that he should be doing things the way they want him too, rather than the way HE wants to. I don't know enough to guess whether or not he over-reacted, but I would say that he's earned the right to be irritated. That's exactly the way I read his rant, too. He's not attacking fans for having found him through Adam. He's well aware that that's the case. But when one particular fan complained to him that he was no longer tweeting in the way she wanted him to tweet, and that she didn't want to take the time to visit the links he posted, he got ticked off. I don't blame him. Nobody is forced to follow anyone. I stopped following several people in Adam's circle because I realized I wasn't finding their tweets that interesting. I didn't tweet them and tell them to stop being boring to me. I just clicked the little tag that allowed me to stop getting their tweets. Neither Adam nor Cheeks has betrayed anyone by not living up to their expectations. It's that sense of entitlement that Adam has talked about, and it's intrusive and rude. I'm glad Cheeks told her that if she's unhappy with what he's tweeting, she should simply unfollow him. Total WORD to both of these ^^^^^^ I'm sorry, but IMO I'm just not getting the 'put down' to Adam bit - WUT????. I like Cheeks, I don't follow him, sorry, but just not interested enough really. Yes, he is charming, funny, witty, intelligent, eloquent - yadda, yadda. I do get however, that it must be frustrating for an independent artist and persona, with a love interest in THE PAST, to be constantly bombarded by needy Adam fans hoping desperately that he will spill some juicy morsel of gossip. Personally, I think he is just trying to say "follow ME for who I am, I'm real and I have feelings. This is MY blog, my twitter and I can say whatever the fuck I want without having butthurt Adam fans giving me a hard time". People, please put yourself in Cheeks position. He has been unbelievably fabulosity squared through the whole Adam journey - BUT he has got to have emotions and feelings too! Hey we all do - every single day - why can't he? He is only human afterall. |
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Post by wal on Apr 27, 2011 0:06:28 GMT -5
adamlambert Adam Lambert Question: what do you all want me to write a song about ? curious to read what u wanna hear about. 11 minutes ago in reply to ↑ @milestougeauxmil es Tougeaux @adamlambert The fictional cultural revolutionary Che Mascara 2 minutes ago |
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Post by wal on Apr 27, 2011 0:09:24 GMT -5
Jonathan_bender Jonathan Bender by adamlambert@adamlambert self-tanner, Kelly Bensimon, unicorn battles, Palin's never ending moose hunts, Kelly Ripa's abs, Lisa Frank stickers and puns. 13 minutes ago Bio: Jonathan Bender @jonathan_bender Manhattan, NY viciously delicious managing editor of @outspokennyc, jack of all trades and sarcastic know-it-all. OutSpokenNYC.com |
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Post by cassie on Apr 27, 2011 0:09:52 GMT -5
Been reading all the opinions and interpretations about Cheeks' blog and Adam's twitter rant. Kept telling myself to stay out of this one, but, am finally jumping into the pool.
I found nothing harsh or self-serving in Cheeks' blog. It was honest. It was confronting the elephant in the living room. Adam IS the reason that a majority of his followers started to follow him. Like Adam, he was grateful for the true fans who support and show interest in what he does (even if they discovered him via Adam). But, he had the right to respond to someone who is telling him (albeit in a polite, "bless her heart"* southern belle kind of way) what and how to tweet for her entertainment while blatantly admitting to not having enough interest in Brad's art to click on a link. There is a big difference between a person offering their opinion (I like this style singing, that style leaves me cold --- owning their own responses) and a person telling another how they should be an artist, and threatening to dump them if they don't shape up.
How many of us are as quick to give unsolicited and often uninformed critical feedback to our friends and family? I dare say those few who do irritate the hell out of the rest of us. We start to avoid them like the plague, or stop sharing any information when we interact.
Adam also has the right to express his discomfort/displeasure with having his personal and private time hijacked under the excuse that he is a celebrity and it comes with the territory. Maybe it does, but it shouldn't. There is nothing in the contract that says an artist must surrender their private time to their fans and stalkers. We don't walk up to a doctor we saw an article on in the newspaper while he is having a quiet family dinner in a restaurant and show him our rash or ask him to write a prescription. We don't rationalize that it comes with the territory if you choose to practice medicine. Or, I would hope we don't!
Adam doesn't owe anything to me for being his fan. My only expectation of him is to create more art that I want to see/hear/buy. The rest is all icing on the cake --- and Adam's icing is delicious and served in generous portions.
Okay, I think I am done. Time to let it go and get some shut-eye.
*When a southern genteel lady wants to slam someone mecilessly, she starts out and ends the dig by saying "bless her heart". That is code for "I am gonna say something very mean-spirited but you have no right to respond to it because I said it out of love and blessings."
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