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Post by adamrocks on Oct 24, 2015 16:50:25 GMT -5
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Post by drummer on Oct 24, 2015 16:58:33 GMT -5
The facts do not support your statement that "the US market simply doesn't get it." Check the numbers from the GNT Tour -- Adam generated more revenue in the US than anywhere else. And since then, although there has been no formal US tour, there have been a number of large, mostly sold-out concerts here. The US is the largest revenue market (US$6 billion) and most complicated in the world. You can get one promoter, book 6 concerts and you have a Australia tour, one promoter and 5 concerts and you have a Japan tour. A US tour can easily be 50+ dates and dozens of promoters plus a master promoter. And every concert date has least four players are involved: artists, a promoter, a ticket-seller and a venue. Managing a tour is a huge commitment. I understand your points. He did over 100 venues for GNT and filled them, but they were relatively small venues, not arenas. In a perfect world where listeners reward sheer voice, stage presence and talent, he should be filling arenas. But it's more complicated than that, as we all know. I know the other countries' markets are smaller and they have fewer venues to fill on a tour. Adam is doing so well in so many international markets. Yes, the US is the biggest dog in the game. He has loyal, loving fans here. And his most recent singles are doing very well here. (ALN yet to be released officially). I hope and pray that he can put together a real US tour next year on the heels of the January shows (which hopefully will expand into Europe.) We all want the same thing. A high-profile, well-crafted show that can fill the bigger venues in the US. Lord knows he works hard enough for it. Wish American talk TV would pick him up a little more. He's a gem. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2015 16:59:09 GMT -5
cassie, not meaning to put you on the spot, but could you provide a mini analysis of this Demi Lovato isolated vocal? Not sure how they do these isolated vocals, maybe it is not a fair thing to evaluate? With my limited knowledge, I do enjoy her voice, but wonder what you think. This is a recording from a 2011 performance. That would be shortly after all the drugs, drinking, bulimia, mental health issues began to come to light. It would be interesting to hear a similar recording now that she is reported to have those issues under control. |
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Post by red panda on Oct 24, 2015 17:08:26 GMT -5
graciejane, here's a more recent one:
and here is one of Adam ( know, I'm very prejudiced, and really not trying to compare Demi and Adam. But these isolated vocals are really interesting to me):
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Post by sizzling63 on Oct 24, 2015 17:17:09 GMT -5
Okay don't shoot the messenger, but based upon yesterday's news about Demi, I have a question. Do we think that Adam will not be able to do a TOH tour in the US due to costs, and possible lack of income from this album, so that for him to tour, he must hook up with some other pop star?? Typically we would have had dates by now for next year. I know that many artists are doing double billing for business reasons, and it appears to the best money-making option for them. I feel horrible asking this question, but any thoughts??? Co-touring seems to be very common for artists these days in order to fill bigger venues and thus make it more "economical". Bigger stars than Adam have done this. I think we have been spoiled in the past as Adam hardly ever shared the stage much, but who knows how profitable it would be for him to only sell small venues? I think we need to adjust our mindset a bit for our own sake (and Adam's). I'm not an expert, only an observer  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2015 17:24:00 GMT -5
They are not friends anymore.  So I guess that's his reply to Demi's tweet about how much she loves him...  quoting this one because it is handy. You guys are cracking me up, analyzing tweets and likes like a bunch of tweens.  </img> So I will join in with my mashed potatoes, tonight you will see all three of them at this party. |
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Post by adamrocks on Oct 24, 2015 17:24:25 GMT -5
Online media using words like 'acing out, axed, dumped....Adam shouldn't have to endure that sh*t! He is in a class all his own in this bubble gum infused pop world. Music doesn't know what to do with Adam....he is so much beyond the pop music world right now. He is on a totally different PLANE.
#FUOnlineMedia
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Post by 4EverAdam on Oct 24, 2015 17:27:55 GMT -5
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Post by Q3 on Oct 24, 2015 17:27:59 GMT -5
The facts do not support your statement that "the US market simply doesn't get it." Check the numbers from the GNT Tour -- Adam generated more revenue in the US than anywhere else. And since then, although there has been no formal US tour, there have been a number of large, mostly sold-out concerts here. The US is the largest revenue market (US$6 billion) and most complicated in the world. You can get one promoter, book 6 concerts and you have a Australia tour, one promoter and 5 concerts and you have a Japan tour. A US tour can easily be 50+ dates and dozens of promoters plus a master promoter. And every concert date has least four players are involved: artists, a promoter, a ticket-seller and a venue. Managing a tour is a huge commitment. I understand your points. He did over 100 venues for GNT and filled them, but they were relatively small venues, not arenas. In a perfect world where listeners reward sheer voice, stage presence and talent, he should be filling arenas. But it's more complicated than that, as we all know. I know the other countries' markets are smaller and they have fewer venues to fill on a tour. Adam is doing so well in so many international markets. Yes, the US is the biggest dog in the game. He has loyal, loving fans here. And his most recent singles are doing very well here. (ALN yet to be released officially). I hope and pray that he can put together a real US tour next year on the heels of the January shows (which hopefully will expand into Europe.) We all want the same thing. A high-profile, well-crafted show that can fill the bigger venues in the US. Lord knows he works hard enough for it. Wish American talk TV would pick him up a little more. He's a gem. There were a number of large audiences in the US --- no not arenas but big venues were in there too. He played a lot of smaller venues outside of the US too. He has never done a solo arena tour -- US or overseas. *** I want Adam to do whatever he wants. If he wants to tour big venues, great. But as a fan, I prefer a nice, mid-sized venue -- like The Joint in Las Vegas and the Hard Rocks. In any case, whatever happens, happens. I can have no influence on it, I can just hope for a big 2016 tour that includes US, Canada and EU -- hopefully accompanied by the hit summer single TOH! ETA: If ALN is a BIG hit, I think Adam can put together a US-Canada-EU arena tour. He just needs a massive hit song. He is already an arena-level artist and can deliver the show. QAL proved that. |
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Post by adamrocks on Oct 24, 2015 17:28:48 GMT -5
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