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Post by nonchallance on May 10, 2012 18:45:10 GMT -5
You can refer to his seksual orientation with respect and thoughtfully and you can do it like EW. I think fans know by now when not to go all crazy. Except that is clearly not true in all cases, nonchalance. You just have to look at the comments on that review to see two people who have yet again missed the point and jumped straight to "stop talking about the gay" when it is an glbt publication. This is exactly what I was trying to say the other day. What EW did yesterday? That is exactly when fans of all orientations should voice their displeasure regarding the focus on his sexuality. It was offensive homophobia dressed up as humor and it should not be allowed to stand unchallenged. A glbt publication referring to his sexuality is a matter of pride and relevant discussion. It is important to the gay community to have a visible role model such as Adam, not just in our fight for equality but also as someone to look up to for young people in our community. Many of us did not have role models such as Adam when we were growing up and it is important to us that our younger generations do. You only have to look at the messages Adam gets on twitter from young gay fans saying how much he has inspired them to be themselves and helped them to deal with the hatred thrown their way. To tell a gay publication to stop focusing on the fact that he is gay is the equivalent of telling us that the important role entertainers like him play in our community is not important at all. Here's a good way to judge it. When you are reading an article, take a moment to google the publication and find out their audience. If it is a gay publication or one with a large gay readership then please do not tell them to not talk about him being gay. Bottom line is straight people need to stop going to glbt sites and telling them how they should feel about Adam because it is not your community nor is it your place to do so. It is the equivalent of a man going into a site like iVillage or mumsnet and telling the women there how they should feel about issues involving women. The women there would quite rightly take offense to that and the gay readership of glbt publications quite rightly take offense to comments such as those from UKGlambert and Sheri on that article. You still missing the point - seksual orientation is not the only thing that Adam is. For people who go o LGBT sites and wrote that, doesn't matter that he is gay. For them he is so much more that what he is doing in his bedroom. They do what they think is right and they have right when they say that seksual orientation doesn't matter. Young people in gay community look up to him because he is more than gay. He always say that it shouldn't matter and those young poeple wants to live in a world without gay/straight labels. You want to be equal? Equal is when I can go on LGBT site and I can say what I think about your comunnity, equal is when you can come here and do the same. It's exchange - without it we are straight, you are gay and there is any bridge between us. You want to be equal in our comunnity? Treat us like we are equal to you in your community.
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Post by amw on May 10, 2012 18:51:15 GMT -5
You can refer to his seksual orientation with respect and thoughtfully and you can do it like EW. I think fans know by now when not to go all crazy. Except that is clearly not true in all cases, nonchalance. You just have to look at the comments on that review to see two people who have yet again missed the point and jumped straight to "stop talking about the gay" when it is an glbt publication. This is exactly what I was trying to say the other day. What EW did yesterday? That is exactly when fans of all orientations should voice their displeasure regarding the focus on his sexuality. It was offensive homophobia dressed up as humor and it should not be allowed to stand unchallenged. A glbt publication referring to his sexuality is a matter of pride and relevant discussion. It is important to the gay community to have a visible role model such as Adam, not just in our fight for equality but also as someone to look up to for young people in our community. Many of us did not have role models such as Adam when we were growing up and it is important to us that our younger generations do. You only have to look at the messages Adam gets on twitter from young gay fans saying how much he has inspired them to be themselves and helped them to deal with the hatred thrown their way. To tell a gay publication to stop focusing on the fact that he is gay is the equivalent of telling us that the important role entertainers like him play in our community is not important at all. Here's a good way to judge it. When you are reading an article, take a moment to google the publication and find out their audience. If it is a gay publication or one with a large gay readership then please do not tell them to not talk about him being gay. Bottom line is straight people need to stop going to glbt sites and telling them how they should feel about Adam because it is not your community nor is it your place to do so. It is the equivalent of a man going into a site like iVillage or mumsnet and telling the women there how they should feel about issues involving women. The women there would quite rightly take offense to that and the gay readership of glbt publications quite rightly take offense to comments such as those from UKGlambert and Sheri on that article. Amen sister! Well spoken!
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Post by mehitabel on May 10, 2012 18:52:24 GMT -5
Our president has class. The presidential hopeful has none: Eric Boehlertþ@EricBoehlert Romney: "no memory" of pinning down presumed gay student, cutting off his hair. 5 of Mitt's classmates do remember; wapo.st/LX1fujOT I talked to my gay friend about Romney's opposing gay marriage. He said Romney has to cater to his voters. So I asked my friend if he's still going to vote for him? And he said he doesn't like the alternative aka Obama :-/ OT as well - I have a couple of friends who say the same - I ask how they can consider voting for people who consider them second class citizens and they have no response...I just don't understand - as a woman, you are not going to get me to vote for anyone who thinks my worth is less than a man's. ETA - I don't care if my gay friends decide to get married, I do care that they can make the choice - I care very much!
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Post by fightthesleep on May 10, 2012 18:59:04 GMT -5
Except that is clearly not true in all cases, nonchalance. You just have to look at the comments on that review to see two people who have yet again missed the point and jumped straight to "stop talking about the gay" when it is an glbt publication. This is exactly what I was trying to say the other day. What EW did yesterday? That is exactly when fans of all orientations should voice their displeasure regarding the focus on his sexuality. It was offensive homophobia dressed up as humor and it should not be allowed to stand unchallenged. A glbt publication referring to his sexuality is a matter of pride and relevant discussion. It is important to the gay community to have a visible role model such as Adam, not just in our fight for equality but also as someone to look up to for young people in our community. Many of us did not have role models such as Adam when we were growing up and it is important to us that our younger generations do. You only have to look at the messages Adam gets on twitter from young gay fans saying how much he has inspired them to be themselves and helped them to deal with the hatred thrown their way. To tell a gay publication to stop focusing on the fact that he is gay is the equivalent of telling us that the important role entertainers like him play in our community is not important at all. Here's a good way to judge it. When you are reading an article, take a moment to google the publication and find out their audience. If it is a gay publication or one with a large gay readership then please do not tell them to not talk about him being gay. Bottom line is straight people need to stop going to glbt sites and telling them how they should feel about Adam because it is not your community nor is it your place to do so. It is the equivalent of a man going into a site like iVillage or mumsnet and telling the women there how they should feel about issues involving women. The women there would quite rightly take offense to that and the gay readership of glbt publications quite rightly take offense to comments such as those from UKGlambert and Sheri on that article. You still missing the point - seksual orientation is not the only thing that Adam is. For people who go o LGBT sites and wrote that, doesn't matter that he is gay. For them he is so much more that what he is doing in his bedroom. They do what they think is right and they have right when they say that seksual orientation doesn't matter. Young people in gay community look up to him because he is more than gay. He always say that it shouldn't matter and those young poeple wants to live in a world without gay/straight labels. You want to be equal? Equal is when I can go on LGBT site and I can say what I think about your comunnity, equal is when you can come here and do the same. It's exchange - without it we are straight, you are gay and there is any bridge between us. You want to be equal in our comunnity? Treat us like we are equal to you in your community. And that patronizing reply is exactly the problem. Yet again you are presuming to talk for a community that you are not a part of. You are also taking Adam's quotes out of context. And to dismiss the importance to gay youth of Adam being gay and in the public eye in the way that you have just there? And you don't see how that is offensive?
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Post by smokeyvera on May 10, 2012 19:02:56 GMT -5
He currently has 2,031 followers. Joey Brooks @joeybrooks If I get to 3,000 followers in the next week I'm going to play @adamlambert "Never Close Our Eyes " on the radio. Joey Brooks @joeybrooks Joey Brooks. Afternoon host @1045chumfm Toronto. Host of the Weekend Blowout. Video/baby maker. Co-ed hockey star. Expert hugger. ÜT: 43.650281,-79.38761 · www.youtube.com/thebrooksieshowI'm sure he's a perfectly darling man and an Adam Lambert supporter. BUT... do other fan groups have to jump through the hoops we seem to? There always seems to be a price for a spin or a mention. "If we get [insert arbitrary number] followers we'll spin Adam's new single".... Not gonna lie.....I'm getting sick of it. Maybe I've been playing the game for soooo damn long, with less than satisfying results..... [/rant] I followed him and checked his tweets. He wants to play Adam, but his boss the PD doesn't want to. He's trying to show that support is out there and peeps want to hear Adam.
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Post by maddie509 on May 10, 2012 19:07:14 GMT -5
Fuse TV @fusetv
Adele's "21" may be back at No. 1 on the Billboard charts next week!I assume they mean Adam's opening week? :( Oh Adele. No, they mean next week (ie Monday May 14th). Well, isn't Carrie Underwood supposed to bag the No.1 spot???
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Post by amw on May 10, 2012 19:08:04 GMT -5
It does matter to me that Adam is gay and attracts attention because of his bold sexuality, his intensity and insistence on living his life out and proud. Homosexuals need positive freaks in the media. Many homosexuals are so forced into small boxes of fear of repercussion for being gay that Adam challenges that intensely for them. It is scary to really get that who you love could possibly get you fired or beaten up at a bar. Gays everywhere learn how to tone it down to survive. Adam refuses to tone anything down. He models something that is starting a crucial conversation in the gay community. He insists that we be who we are, honestly and completely, and refuses to tone down the realness. From some this is very threatening. When straight people engage in this conversation like they think they know what it is like to be gay, I would beg you tread softly.
What attracted me to Adam, and still does , is just how much his alternative behavior is familiar to me. I love that so much! I know he uses the term post-gay, but that is a desire, a passionate hope for the future and sometimes, in places like Burning Man, that liberal attitude really really happens. But mostly, gays and lesbians have to fight for the right to hold hands in public if they have high profile jobs. Gay publications will speak of him in many different ways, and it is important to recognize that we do not have the same rights as straight people. I have lived both ways. I really do know this. Straight people do not know what this is like, to feel discrimination in this pervasive, strange way.
Anyways, Adam represents out and proud in every way that I could strive to be. Whenever possible I embrace my lesbian self in public and Adam has made me braver and more comfortable to do so just by being himself.
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Post by houselady on May 10, 2012 19:08:52 GMT -5
Anyone watching Idol? They started the program by showing some Idols on their home town visits, and they included Adam! Yay!
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Post by cayman on May 10, 2012 19:09:30 GMT -5
Smokey......the review is gone, I clicked the link and nothing. Maybe he is revising or something. I read he gave it a 3.5 stars, that is cool :D
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Post by pi on May 10, 2012 19:09:52 GMT -5
I'm sure he's a perfectly darling man and an Adam Lambert supporter. BUT... do other fan groups have to jump through the hoops we seem to? There always seems to be a price for a spin or a mention. "If we get [insert arbitrary number] followers we'll spin Adam's new single".... Not gonna lie.....I'm getting sick of it. Maybe I've been playing the game for soooo damn long, with less than satisfying results..... [/rant] I followed him and checked his tweets. He wants to play Adam, but his boss the PD doesn't want to. He's trying to show that support is out there and peeps want to hear Adam. I wonder why the PD is against playing Adam.. ???
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