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Post by talon on May 29, 2017 15:56:14 GMT -5
Fight From The Inside
Written by: Roger Taylor
Musicians:
Roger Taylor - lead and backing vocals, drums, rhythm guitar, bass guitar Brian May - guitars
- Intriguing? Well yeah because it is the first Queen song...that is just Brian and Roger. Practically a Roger solo song as he does every instrument - Brian just adds some lead guitar.
- In a funny case of irony, Slash from Guns 'N Roses was praising Brian May and then cited this song as one of his favorite guitar riffs of all time...Only it's Roger's riff and performance on the guitar!
ALTERNATIVE RELEASED VERSIONS:
THE EYE INSTRUMENTAL MIX
- NOT essential but interesting none the less. - In the late 90s Queen developed a computer video game based on their music called The Eye. I never really did get a chance to play it but it was not that great a game supposedly BUT the soundtrack was QUITE unique. It was chuck full (5 discs) of instrumental remixes. Considering I was reaching for any alternative I could find for this song, I figured it was worth a shot.
PERSONAL NOTES: - Very gruff, and I find it more interesting today - The band COULD do an album with just Roger and Brian and it has precedence! Up next is Freddie's sensual funk rocker - Get Down, Make Love
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Post by talon on May 29, 2017 15:54:56 GMT -5
News Of The WorldA little background. - After the band had gone all out on A Night At The Opera and stayed the course on A Day At The Races the band wanted to take a new approach. They couldn't go much further into production so they decided instead to strip back the production a TON. They decided to use these sessions to just play live in the studio as a rock and roll band. - With the advancement of punk and new wave this seemed a wise approach. While the band wasn't going to ape these styles they would incorporate some aspects to their sound. - The album was recorded in six weeks, which is very short by Queen standards. - The album did well on the charts hitting #3 in the US, #4 in the UK and also hit #9 in Austria, #2 in Canada, #1 in the Dutch charts, #1 in France, #7 in Germany, #15 in New Zealand, #4 in the Norweigian charts, and #9 in Sweden selling somewhere in the area of 7-10 million copies. - This is considered by Queen to be the start of the second of three eras of Freddie-era Queen. Myself, I consider it to still be apart of the first of three eras. As shown by the Deep Cuts sets, the band considers the eras to be 1973-1976, 1977-1982, and 1984-1995. It is understandable as A Day At The Races did end their run of throw the kitchen sink at it production, whereas this album strips back and starts their more straight forward approach. Myself I consider the eras as so: 1973-1979, 1980-1986, and 1987-1995. 1973-1979 is the band as a band rocking out doing everything together and at their creative peak. 1980-1986 was the start of a separate band, not so much working together and drifiting apart - sometimes still creating brilliance, other times going through the motions. 1987-1995 was the coming back together and while there are hiccups, it really is a band and family united. - No Synths!Tracks On The Album:1. We Will Rock You (May) 2. We Are The Champions (Mercury) 3. Sheer Heart Attack (Taylor) 4. All Dead, All Dead (May) 5. Spread Your Wings (Deacon) 6. Fight From The Inside (Taylor) 7. Get Down, Make Love (Mercury) 8. Sleeping On The Sidewalk (May) 9. Who Needs You (Deacon) 10. It's Late (May) 11. My Melancholy Blues (Mercury) Additional Released Tracks1. Feelings Feelings Take 9 (May) Unreleased Tracks1. Silver Salmon (Staffell) Unreleased and Unheard1. Batteries Not Included (Deacon or May) - This track is basically just a title of a track that was recorded during these sessions. It has never seen the light of day and the only speculation was that it may have been written by Brian or that it may have been written by John. It is possible that it is a working title for a different song - we will probably never know. As we delve into song by song of the main track on the album...I will NOT be going into WWRY/WATC. You know them very well by now and they will always be in my thread if you want to go see...but these posts will be to educate about the other lesser known tracks... I will do one per day except today where I will post about the 2 tracks we've talked about the last few days....Fight From The Inside and Get Down Make Love....
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Post by talon on May 29, 2017 15:52:33 GMT -5
I just had a chance to read through much of yesterday's thread. I just wanted to say to Talon how much I appreciate all of your Queen knowledge and insight. Although I've been a fan of Queen since they began (but not an intense fan), I really didn't come to appreciate them as much as I do since their collaboration with Adam. The opportunity to see Brian and Roger live (three concerts in 2014) was the frosting on the cake - what talent these two have!! And seeing how much of a "family" the band seems to be is so wonderful. Since Brian and Roger are my age, I'm totally amazed at how much energy they have during these concerts. I'm so anxious for the three QAL concerts that I will attend this summer to experience all the joy of seeing Queen and Adam live once again. In my opinion, although I treasure Adam's solo career, I'm so grateful that he has had this amazing opportunity to collaborate with these rock legends. And Talon, you have made this experience so much more special through the things I've learned about Queen thanks to you! THIS. And also want Talon to know that many get it totally when you explain how you like something better and something else less, and there are many that are not totally upset if our snowflake is somewhere not described as the most beautiful and most perfect in the land. Please continue to share your opinion, it is always interesting and well thought out, and I agree, I learned a lot from you, and there is a wonderful reference guide on all things Queen here, thanks to your massive input on this site: By the way, where is your Queen thread? Has it moved? Can't seem to find it at the moment. Or I'm blind, that could also be the case [/quote] *blush* Thanks! I think if you follow the links in my sig they are still active...well...still there. I haven't updated them in a while and a few projects have come and gone - It might be time to go back and play a little catch up :D Thank you Talon for sharing you knowledge of Queen with us, love your posts! Thanks you guys!!! I may bring some of my thread about News of the World to the main board as we come closer to the concert........Today I may demonstrate two tracks - the ones we've been mentioning.
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Post by talon on May 29, 2017 15:41:00 GMT -5
Thought we had a smiley of beating a dead horse, but couldn't find it. I think the problem is in semantics. Not worth carrying on. I think this was edited, yes? Before it said something regarding the word "tackle". It was not meant to signify that Adam "couldn't". It was meant as a simile for doing so. I didn't see the band doing the song. Tackling the song. Taking on the challenge of learning a near 40 year old song and performing it live for the first time. Could they? Absolutely. Would they want to? I'm doubtful That's it. "In no way is that a rant or a suggestion that BRorA do anything different. I also don't think you have to agree with me." Not sure why you are making my comment about the rants about you. But my point was I avoid the Queen forum cesspool for a reason. The envy, rants and hatred about Adam (and something they have no control over) was just ridiculous and a waste of time, imo. But I look forward to Brian, Roger and Adam putting on a great and enjoyable show with their choices as we all do. Rock on guys I apologize. You had been responding to me so it implied to me that you were thought what I had said was akin to the ranting and raving and hatred. If that *isn't* what was meant, then that's fine. I understand Adam fans not going to Queen forums...Even I came here for a more positive look on the collaboration. But I would also say that I think at least *PART* (not all) of the problem, ranting, raving, etc. is overblown because of some of the behavior of some of the Adam fans there. I've seen trolls on both sides of the argument believe me NOW BACK to Linda's wonderful analogy. Chris Cornell is a GREAT example. In fact one of the closest examples I could come to to compare Adam to for me. Chris would be exactly like Adam just flipped around. I think if Chris had ever fronted Queen, his SCC, Ogre Battle, Tie Your Mother Down, etc. would be SPOT on genuine and would work much better than Adam's. BUT on the other hand, on at least 50% of the catalogue, he would sound more out of place than Adam does on rock tracks. On the poppy/campy stuff Chris would sound very out of place. Chris *COULD* probably handle the ballads pretty well...but on an overall package Adam is a better fit. I was a fan of Chris like I am of Adam if I'm honest. A man who has (had now :( ) great pipes. I like some of the music he makes but I'm not a big collector of it. I like some of Chris' singles with Temple of the Dog, Soundgarden, Audioslave, and his solo stuff....but I don't have a lot of albums as it's not my brand of rock really. So it really is a good comparison Well except Chris never worked with Queen. BUT! Brian did do a track with Soundgarden once - he thew some guitar on a Soundgarden track for a charity album - the song was New Damage....and it's got some nice Brian work )
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Post by talon on May 29, 2017 12:49:12 GMT -5
That is a VERY apt analogy! I am on my phone now but will come back to this later.
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Post by talon on May 29, 2017 12:30:51 GMT -5
I just had a chance to read through much of yesterday's thread. I just wanted to say to Talon how much I appreciate all of your Queen knowledge and insight. Although I've been a fan of Queen since they began (but not an intense fan), I really didn't come to appreciate them as much as I do since their collaboration with Adam. The opportunity to see Brian and Roger live (three concerts in 2014) was the frosting on the cake - what talent these two have!! And seeing how much of a "family" the band seems to be is so wonderful. Since Brian and Roger are my age, I'm totally amazed at how much energy they have during these concerts. I'm so anxious for the three QAL concerts that I will attend this summer to experience all the joy of seeing Queen and Adam live once again. In my opinion, although I treasure Adam's solo career, I'm so grateful that he has had this amazing opportunity to collaborate with these rock legends. And Talon, you have made this experience so much more special through the things I've learned about Queen thanks to you! :D Thanks! Always happy to be here and enjoy this with you all!
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Post by talon on May 29, 2017 12:27:27 GMT -5
"It seems like you two may have been offended and I'm not sure why. I'm not slighting Adam by saying he's not perfect and has flaws...Well all have them - even legends have them."Can't speak for the other person but I was not offended. I have my opinion of what I like and I stated it. We won't all feel the same about anything and no opinion will be changed cause someone else disagrees. But that is the good thing about this forum is we all get to say what we like and don't like. Or nothing if so inclined. Talon, if I was offended (not sure that's the right word) it is NOT because of your opinion of what you like. It's the way you sometimes imply that Adam can't. "I'd be surprised if Adam tackled it."Tackle" a song implies to me that it would be difficult for him. IMO, he can sing anything. I haven't seen any evidence otherwise. Ahh. Well there's two ways I could answer that. In this case I'd say I certainly didn't mean he COUDN'T do Fight From The Inside....I would just be surprised if he DID. And here's why...in the Queen world - I would liken Fight From The Inside to be like I'm In Love With My Car. Even when Freddie was around, Rog sang it (except one humorous time when Rog forgot the words and Freddie tried in vain to pinch hit from the piano). In the Queen + era, Roger and Brian sing a little more to showcase the "Queen" side of things. As Fight From The INside was a Roger penned, Roger sung tune, and it's not one they have ever done live, it would make logical sense that if they were to do it it would probably be done during the Roger section. Of course Adan COULD do it. Adam COULD do Love of My Life, '39, Days, or Magic. But you won't see that because they appear to fit in the B&R's solo section. In my opinion FFTI would probably be more likely to surface there than in the main show. BUT for the point of having a rational adult discourse - If I had meant it the other way and meant that I didn't think he'd be as good at singing it, is that really offensive to you? You think he can handle anything and haven't seen evidence otherwise. Great! The evidence I've seen of him doing SCC and some of the other hard rock tracks "prove" to me that he can't do rock as well as he does the other parts of the catalogue but as always that is MY opinion. You think he can and I won't argue that cause that's YOUR opinion. But what I don't understand is why is that offensive? Anything I say regarding how well someone does something is never intended to be presented as factual, it's always intended as my opinion - I didn't think that would need be said. It's factual when I talk about what happened in the past, and who sang what, who wrote what, etc. It's intelligent conjecture when I predict how they feel or are going to present themselves in the future when it's based on how they've previously done so. It's PURE opinion when I say how it was or wasn't pulled off. I haven't seen any evidence otherwise either. And it is not a matter of Adam fans thinking he is perfect but we can appreciate and admire what he brings to Queen, especially on an Adam forum. Brian, Roger, and Adam have shown no concern for what the Queen purists want or don't want. Luckily for us they just keep doing their thing and ignore their rants. I try to do the same. I went to the Queen forum once and decided that their anger, putdowns and insults about Adam and even Brian were not for me so I never went back. Don't really care what they think about Adam but I won't agree with them just to make them feel better about losing Freddie. But that's just it. If you look at my posts I was extremely positive about 75-85% of Adam's contribution. I was less positive (but even then not negative about the other 15-25%) - I didn't say he sucked as a rock singer just that he's not the greatest at it - not as genuine as some of the other tracks. In no way is that a rant or a suggestion that BRorA do anything different. I also don't think you have to agree with me. But me not liking a portion of his contribution is NOT me ranting, slagging him off, hating him, hating the collaboration, or anything like that. Let me highlight this: And it is not a matter of Adam fans thinking he is perfect but we can appreciate and admire what he brings to Queen, especially on an Adam forumAnd yet, I say something that implies he's less than perfect at his role, and that immediately means I *DON'T* appreciate and admire what he brings to Queen? I come here often during gigs, and I have said numerous times how much I enjoyed the 3 gigs I went to (I wouldn't be going to 2 more if I didn't). I have also heaped great praise on his take on WWTLF, TSMGO, Save Me (if anything was negative about that it was the choice of arrangement where Brian took out my favorite instrumental portion). I also painstakingly said how much I grew to love his Somebody To Love when I didn't like it the first time around. I wouldn't still be here after 4-5 years if I *DIDN'T* appreciate it. But appreciating it doesn't mean I like 100% of what he does...and that's okay! It shouldn't be offensive! Plenty of times I read here about how Brian's guitar bores them or they think the middle B&R sections drag the show down or whatever...BUT that doesn't offend me...It's all opinion
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Post by talon on May 29, 2017 3:52:16 GMT -5
I'd never argue that! Of course it's okay for you to love Adam. I also think it's okay for Queen purists to completely dislike Adam's voice and how it fits. Personally I think a Queen fan who refuses to go to QAL is missing out....BUT I get it. It's difficult hearing anyone else do these songs even if done well. It's all very subjective! And if Queen purists don't like Adam's voice and how it fits they don't have to go or listen. They have their old Queen tapes to listen to. But what they can't do is stop Queen and Adam from performing and bringing joy to those who like it and obviously there are many who do. BTW, are the purists still upset about Adam fronting Queen? I thought that had died down by now and after all this time. Oh there are plenty out there, though if I'm honest, upset is not really the word. They aren't trying to stop anything or complaining, they are more just indifferent and not going to be following it. And they do just as you suggest - they roll their eyes and go put on "real" Queen as they say. If I'm honest - Myself and my best friend are probably the MOST open and pro QAL Queen fans that I interact with. My sister likes Queen but hates AL. She won't go with me to the gigs. On the other hand, my best friend loves AL and was excited from the get go. I was closer to my best friend
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Post by talon on May 29, 2017 3:14:33 GMT -5
I love the Queen and Adam collaboration. Freddie was wonderful but I prefer Adam's vocals and rock style and interpretation. I find him sexy and attractive along with his great voice. What a combination. Freddie had a wonderful voice but my interest is not really there. I don't think there is any wrong or right just different opinions. Freddie has been gone for so long that anything I know about him is mostly second hand or from old videos. I get it tho, Freddie is loved and missed by his fans. But I think it is okay for Adam's fans to love him and think he is special as well. I'd never argue that! Of course it's okay for you to love Adam. I also think it's okay for Queen purists to completely dislike Adam's voice and how it fits. Personally I think a Queen fan who refuses to go to QAL is missing out....BUT I get it. It's difficult hearing anyone else do these songs even if done well. It's all very subjective!
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Post by talon on May 29, 2017 0:25:36 GMT -5
Fair enough. Forums can sometimes make it difficult to read a person
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