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Post by skaschep on Sept 16, 2019 17:13:49 GMT -5
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Post by cassie on Sept 16, 2019 17:14:31 GMT -5
I don't know. It seems to me that the singers of previous generations were, for the most part, better than many of the singers of this pop generation. In part, because they had to be. The technology did not exist to fix pitch problems and improve the quality/sound of voices. There was a mic, and perhaps some reverb, but that was about it. Yes, I know there were exceptions. It is not an "all or nothing" statement. (Bob Dylan, anyone?) But to perform live, the singers had to deliver vocally. Nothing to hide behind or augment their performance.
There was also a different esthetic and expectation for live performances. For the most part, the singers just sang. No dancing, no choreography, no special vocal effects. Unless it was Vegas with showgirls or the NYC Rockettes, there were no dance troupes filling the stage. Live performances generally were CONCERTS, not SHOWS.
Today, the expectation is a total entertainment spectacle in pop. I just saw an ad for ????, not even sure what product??? but it showed a boy band singing while frozen in place. The audience is puzzled. "Are WE supposed to dance?" The tag line is something about boy bands without dancing is just "okay." (And the advertised product doesn't settle for OK.) Fans go to see the celebrity, expect it to sound like the recording, and want lots of visuals to enhance to music. They don't really care if the singer is live, semi-live but tweaked with backing tracks and backing singers, or totally lip synced.
Remember Milli Vanilli? They didn't actually sing their hits, and got caught lip syncing their live performances. The scandal destroyed their career. They faded to nothing. Nowadays I have seen multiple videos where it is obvious the singer is NOT singing. I remember one Justin Bieber video where he is actually throwing up on stage while his "singing" goes on flawlessly. I have also heard videos of "unfixed" live singing that was painful to my ears. So, I agree with Adam's general statement. I think one of the reasons insiders marvel at Adam's voice is BECAUSE he sings live so effortlessly and impeccably.
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Post by skaschep on Sept 16, 2019 17:16:49 GMT -5
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Post by skaschep on Sept 16, 2019 17:41:19 GMT -5
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Post by gypsyladee on Sept 16, 2019 17:50:44 GMT -5
I'm not saying there isn't any real artistry anymore. I just went to a concert of Muse last week. They are definitely one of the best live performers out there. 2 hours of great live instruments and live vocals (mostly). But it is easier now to fool the audience. With auto tune and backing tracks. You don't even have to sing or play the instrument anymore and your audience still loves it. Justin B playbacks most of his show. As does Britney. And they can sing, but just don't want to or are able to do it in a live show for 2 hours. Adam has been accused of lip syncing and using auto tune plenty of times already. Because it's so normal that people use it and he's soo amazing good that people just don't believe he does it all live. It's ridiculous if you think about it. His talent in singing is way bigger than almost all of those big artists. Yet he's playing 600 people venues in December. In 12 days his song hasn't even reached 1 million streams. We all think he deserves so much more and it must frustrate him sometimes when he sings live with Queen night after night and also with his solo music and is not recognized for that talent. Or at least not by the masses. While others who use all the tools that are available to them and get played over and over with only an inch of the talent Adam has. He wasn't saying there is no artistry anymore. We know he appreciates a lot of artists out there and he tells us that. He's just talking about those who aren't great and still seem to be able to play in arenas or stadiums. All true! Over the last 10 years I realized and then accepted the fact that the art of singing matters nothing anymore. It just doesn’t. This is the age of DJs and techno produced sounds...and Adam is an anomaly... he is a diamond in the land where no one thinks diamonds are valuable... I hope that I eat my words some day but are we defining Adam's success by the current pop artists? That is such a young, fickle market. I have young teenage granddaughters who share what they are listening to and it's based on trendy and boppy music that is constantly changing. After 6 months, they don't listen to it anymore. Sheeran, Smith and Adele all went by the wayside. Arianna looks 16 so she appeals to that age group and that is a big audience but I'm not sure what loyalty it builds over the long run. Adam's music builds it's base slowing and some of his early work is still building numbers as people hear about him. It's interesting that other than Madonna, Bowie, Queen, a lot of his favorite groups aren't necessary burning up the charts. I am sure he will bit in it for the long haul and will continue to be successful in all of his endeavors but maybe not in Pop music. And, by the way, those granddaughters do have an Adam playlist and have seen Queen. Runnin seems to be their favorite and when we are driving there is a LOT of Runnin and don't get me started on Believe which they converted to mp3. The Bohemian Rhapsody soundtrack was a favorite but after seeing the Rhapsody Tour, they don't think it sounds right with Freddie. Well I'm old so what the hell do i know.
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Post by pi on Sept 16, 2019 17:50:45 GMT -5
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Post by pi on Sept 16, 2019 17:58:33 GMT -5
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Post by lurleene on Sept 16, 2019 18:34:03 GMT -5
These intimate venues that Adam is playing may not be what his actual planned tour will be. Tho Foxwood Casino would be in line with what he will probably do with a regular tour. But as much as we dismiss the importance of radio, if you are not getting a ton of it to go with the streaming, you are unlikely to get the big hits and play arenas. And all of those playing arenas are not always the best singers or greatest performers but they are getting radio hits. The ones playing arenas without the big hits are acts who got them long ago. And they built up a huge following who still want to see them. And many of the rappers, with the huge streaming numbers and playing arenas, are touring with multiple acts. So Adam's tour sizes will be in line with his solo exposure. If it were based on talent, he would be playing stadiums, lol.
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Post by sizzling63 on Sept 16, 2019 18:39:14 GMT -5
Paul Rieckhoff @paulrieckhoff I am REALLY bummed I didn’t run into @adamlambert at @siriusxm HQ today. Big fan. cc @wilyfoxx Okay Adam, I personally do not "expect" you to be different, just as I did not expect you to be raunchy and OTT sexy after your Idol tour. I became a fan because of your voice and your charming personality, and I would be totally fine if you portrayed yourself as a regular, less "out there" pop star. All I want from you is to be authentically yourself and tell us what your personal inspiration for "Superpower" was. Of course I love the song! But I can connect better if you talk about yourself instead of what target group of people you wrote this song for. One reason why I fell in love with FS and NE was that you talked about your personal motivation behind writing and releasing the songs, and the open letter was heartwarming to begin with. Diluting a message by talking in "general terms" is something I have a hard time with.
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Post by mszue on Sept 16, 2019 18:47:06 GMT -5
I finally listened to the Sirius interview...I had to use Safari...Chrome just would not let me do it...but I had no issue with Safari. Wish I had thought of that earlier Thanks to whoever made that suggestion!
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