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Post by pi on Oct 2, 2012 17:59:01 GMT -5
It would be great if they showed the Trespassing performance too since it's Adam's next single! Maybe someone can tweet them the better sounding Trespassing performance? I'm not sure where to find it now.. This was under the WWFM video on their site.. "Glamberts! Comment and share and tweet us @1035ktu and me @paulwebguy !" |
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Post by Albiku on Oct 2, 2012 18:00:59 GMT -5
Of course he knows discrimination. But then, who doesn't? And he probably learned most of it after he became famous. He's probably encountering more homophobia, more injustice and more discrimination now than he ever did before. But IMHO it's not the same thing at all. Adam felt like the weird kid when he was young, but at least he didn't have a group of people constantly putting him down and making him feel like a worthless freak. When you're a kid, when you haven't had time to come into terms with who you are, when you still haven't shaped yourself as a person... It's very, very harmful to have that kind of experience. That's where suicide because of bullying comes from. When you're an adult, of course it hurts... But you have the means to look at it from a different perspective in which THEY are the ones who are in the wrong. It's not my intention to downplay what Adam's gone through at all, don't get me wrong. But I do think it's not the same. I don't know if I'm explaining myself properly... My English isn't good enough for this debate. lol
You're explaining yourself perfectly. This is what the "It Gets Better" campaign is telling kids. Don't give up now because you will get stronger. You will know who you are and you won't let the bullies win. As hopeless as it seems now, it will get better. Teenagers are so vulnerable and everything can seem like the end of the world. They just have to hang on or they'll never know how wonderful their lives might be.Exactly! It does get better, even though it really sticks with you for life too. To this day, I still don't know how to behave normally when I'm with new people, for example. This sort of thing ingrains within the core of your being, it becomes part of you. You overcome it, you get through it and past it. But it has already changed you, because it happened when you were growing as a person, when you were most susceptible to change. When it happens to you as an adult, it's not the same. You are already grown. It won't impact on you in the same way. You get hurt, but IMHO it's not the same. Just to be clear, I'm talking about outright bullying, not about feeling different (which is also really, really difficult, let me tell ya). Not trying to downplay what Adam has gone through at all, just pointing out the differences between child bullying and adult discrimination.  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2012 18:14:06 GMT -5
You guys have done a good job talking about being bullied and feeling different. Though you learn confidence and how to cope as an adult, you don't ever forget. I once worked with an older man who, if he was having a bad day, would joke, "I'm fat and ugly and I don't have any friends."
And the bullies grow up too ... some of them never change. My dad lives in a retirement village and it is like a high school, complete with heathers and freaks. *sigh*
To the extent that Adam can connect with those being disrespected or who were disrespected in the past, wow ... that's millions of people right there. Go Adam.
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Post by smokeyvera on Oct 2, 2012 18:15:39 GMT -5
You're explaining yourself perfectly. This is what the "It Gets Better" campaign is telling kids. Don't give up now because you will get stronger. You will know who you are and you won't let the bullies win. As hopeless as it seems now, it will get better. Teenagers are so vulnerable and everything can seem like the end of the world. They just have to hang on or they'll never know how wonderful their lives might be.Exactly! It does get better, even though it really sticks with you for life too. To this day, I still don't know how to behave normally when I'm with new people, for example. This sort of thing ingrains within the core of your being, it becomes part of you. You overcome it, you get through it and past it. But it has already changed you, because it happened when you were growing as a person, when you were most susceptible to change. When it happens to you as an adult, it's not the same. You are already grown. It won't impact on you in the same way. You get hurt, but IMHO it's not the same. Just to be clear, I'm talking about outright bullying, not about feeling different (which is also really, really difficult, let me tell ya). Not trying to downplay what Adam has gone through at all, just pointing out the differences between child bullying and adult discrimination. But unfortunately a lot of the middle and high school bullies grow up and continue to be bullies. Many adults still have to contend with them. It is just handled differently. |
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Post by smokeyvera on Oct 2, 2012 18:18:06 GMT -5
CuckooBert þ@CuckooBert @lambertfan1977 Woops! I had typo on the text # for KTU. It's 31035, not 51035. RT lm2718: @cuckoobert smokeyvera K TU is 31035 <Thx bb. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2012 18:18:17 GMT -5
RCA Records Promo @rcapromo Catch @adamlambert on @onairwithryan. Hear his inspiring words about bullying & a clip of "Trespassing" Here: bit.ly/SATI2c WUT?!! RCA Promo actually tweeetd about Adam! I am floored! |
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Post by Craazyforadam on Oct 2, 2012 18:19:08 GMT -5
He knows discrimination first hand and now that he is famous, he gets his share of bullying too. He definitely knows what he is talking about. Of course he knows discrimination. But then, who doesn't? And he probably learned most of it after he became famous. He's probably encountering more homophobia, more injustice and more discrimination now than he ever did before. But IMHO it's not the same thing at all. Adam felt like the weird kid when he was young, but at least he didn't have a group of people constantly putting him down and making him feel like a worthless freak. When you're a kid, when you haven't had time to come into terms with who you are, when you still haven't shaped yourself as a person... It's very, very harmful to have that kind of experience. That's where suicide because of bullying comes from. When you're an adult, of course it hurts... But you have the means to look at it from a different perspective in which THEY are the ones who are in the wrong. It's not my intention to downplay what Adam's gone through at all, don't get me wrong. But I do think it's not the same. I don't know if I'm explaining myself properly... My English isn't good enough for this debate. lol Need to run, so don't have time to read the rest, just wanted to say, I fully agree with you and was not at all talking about that or at least not that angle of it. The problem of bullying especially in our schools and in an age group when kids are the most vulnerable is damaging, traumatic and in some cases even lethal and yes, at that age, Adam seems to have been lucky enough to face less of that. I was responding to a different aspect of the discussion (his situation later in life and today). Not at all refering to what you are discussing. We are in full agreement. Unintended miscommunication, if this was understood differently. Gotta run....catch up with everyone later. |
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Post by nonchallance on Oct 2, 2012 18:20:27 GMT -5
You're explaining yourself perfectly. This is what the "It Gets Better" campaign is telling kids. Don't give up now because you will get stronger. You will know who you are and you won't let the bullies win. As hopeless as it seems now, it will get better. Teenagers are so vulnerable and everything can seem like the end of the world. They just have to hang on or they'll never know how wonderful their lives might be.Exactly! It does get better, even though it really sticks with you for life too. To this day, I still don't know how to behave normally when I'm with new people, for example. This sort of thing ingrains within the core of your being, it becomes part of you. You overcome it, you get through it and past it. But it has already changed you, because it happened when you were growing as a person, when you were most susceptible to change. When it happens to you as an adult, it's not the same. You are already grown. It won't impact on you in the same way. You get hurt, but IMHO it's not the same. Just to be clear, I'm talking about outright bullying, not about feeling different (which is also really, really difficult, let me tell ya). Not trying to downplay what Adam has gone through at all, just pointing out the differences between child bullying and adult discrimination. I can't agree with you about this. Bulllying when you are an adult is the same problem as it is when you are a child. If you are not strong enough you will be destroyed. I've seen this kind of thing when I was working as a volunteer. In one case woman was hounded by her co-workers - it ends for her with nervous breakdown and suicidal attempt. |
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Post by stardust on Oct 2, 2012 18:20:28 GMT -5
Getting ready for Halloween (I know, not the way Adam spells it) :4OMG: :4OMG: :4OMG:
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Post by theosgma on Oct 2, 2012 18:23:47 GMT -5
Now they say I have to do a cooling off period and will unblock me later! lol When does this contest end? Wow They let me whack away until we got it to 80%!!! I am sure there was some help from some of you because the numbers starting jumping. That was fun! |
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