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Post by thelambertluvva on Feb 16, 2016 16:14:15 GMT -5
Don't plan to watch Gaga (never liked her) but I am still curious on why in the world would they have female singer do a tribute for a male singer? Just doesn't seem right to me. I can't imagine a female doing a long tribute to Elvis or Freddie Mercury or Michael at a major awards show either. I think one of the big reasons was that this was a CORPORATELY SPONSORED tribute. The corporate sponsor, Intel, wanted to promote it's image of being on the leading edge of innovation, like David Bowie was. And they wanted a star with BIG marketing power who could pull off the innovation message. Can you think of a BIG name male star who could do that? Justin Beaver, Justin Timberlake, Burno Mars, Adam Levine, Ed Sheeran - all too mainstream, even retro. Could you imagine any of them doing something so vastly different from mainstream as GaGa does? Our Adam of course could do it, but he does not have the big name marketing power that Intel wanted. So it's all about money. To me, a better tribute, even better than Adam, would be someone who knew him personally and was greatly influenced by him AND his music and even better who actually performed his covers in some capacity. Here is a list of 29 artists, mostly male, who were greatly influenced by him. There are some big names there who knew him personally, collaborated with him, or shared a stage with him. Arcade Fire and Boy George knew him personally. George was a super fan since '73 and even won a contest dressed up as him and singing one of his songs. www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3394777/Boy-George-writes-touching-tribute-friend-David-Bowie-star-s-shock-death. It appears that most of the list were influenced by his music, but Gaga doesn't mention the music as the main influence, just his style and fashion as the reason she dressed so outrageously. Even Adam in this list doesn't mention the style and fashion first, but the vocal influence. Just reread Q3's reaction (someone who knows a lot about David) and I am going to agree with it: "Frankly, I still think the best things they could have done were to get a man to sing the vocals -- the gender bending concept was a gimmick -- or make it a multi-artist tribute." |
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Post by DancyGeorgia on Feb 16, 2016 22:26:45 GMT -5
I think one of the big reasons was that this was a CORPORATELY SPONSORED tribute. The corporate sponsor, Intel, wanted to promote it's image of being on the leading edge of innovation, like David Bowie was. And they wanted a star with BIG marketing power who could pull off the innovation message. Can you think of a BIG name male star who could do that? Justin Beaver, Justin Timberlake, Burno Mars, Adam Levine, Ed Sheeran - all too mainstream, even retro. Could you imagine any of them doing something so vastly different from mainstream as GaGa does? Our Adam of course could do it, but he does not have the big name marketing power that Intel wanted. So it's all about money. To me, a better tribute, even better than Adam, would be someone who knew him personally and was greatly influenced by him AND his music and even better who actually performed his covers in some capacity. Here is a list of 29 artists, mostly male, who were greatly influenced by him. There are some big names there who knew him personally, collaborated with him, or shared a stage with him. Arcade Fire and Boy George knew him personally. George was a super fan since '73 and even won a contest dressed up as him and singing one of his songs. www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3394777/Boy-George-writes-touching-tribute-friend-David-Bowie-star-s-shock-death. It appears that most of the list were influenced by his music, but Gaga doesn't mention the music as the main influence, just his style and fashion as the reason she dressed so outrageously. Even Adam in this list doesn't mention the style and fashion first, but the vocal influence. Just reread Q3's reaction (someone who knows a lot about David) and I am going to agree with it: "Frankly, I still think the best things they could have done were to get a man to sing the vocals -- the gender bending concept was a gimmick -- or make it a multi-artist tribute." Yes, unfortunately the TV portion of the Grammy's, at least, is more about money than about quality. Personally, male or female tribute performer does not matter to me. But I really like your suggestion of using soneone who both knew DB personally and was influenced by his music. Would have meant more. I would really like to see the list of 29 people you mention, but the link provided is not for that list. |
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Post by thelambertluvva on Feb 17, 2016 0:53:06 GMT -5
So it's all about money. To me, a better tribute, even better than Adam, would be someone who knew him personally and was greatly influenced by him AND his music and even better who actually performed his covers in some capacity. Here is a list of 29 artists, mostly male, who were greatly influenced by him. There are some big names there who knew him personally, collaborated with him, or shared a stage with him. Arcade Fire and Boy George knew him personally. George was a super fan since '73 and even won a contest dressed up as him and singing one of his songs. www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3394777/Boy-George-writes-touching-tribute-friend-David-Bowie-star-s-shock-death. It appears that most of the list were influenced by his music, but Gaga doesn't mention the music as the main influence, just his style and fashion as the reason she dressed so outrageously. Even Adam in this list doesn't mention the style and fashion first, but the vocal influence. Just reread Q3's reaction (someone who knows a lot about David) and I am going to agree with it: "Frankly, I still think the best things they could have done were to get a man to sing the vocals -- the gender bending concept was a gimmick -- or make it a multi-artist tribute." Yes, unfortunately the TV portion of the Grammy's, at least, is more about money than about quality. Personally, male or female tribute performer does not matter to me. But I really like your suggestion of using soneone who both knew DB personally and was influenced by his music. Would have meant more. I would really like to see the list of 29 people you mention, but the link provided is not for that list. Sorry, Dancey, here is the list. www.gigwise.com/photos/104910/rip-david-bowie---artists-he-inspired-influenced-killers-nirvanaI found it very interesting. Also from another link I posted on the main thread, the UK one, one of the commenters thought Iggy Pop would be good. I then read Iggy's wiki and he and David were dear friends, David helped write and produce two of his albums, they wrote songs together, like "China Girl" and they went through rehab together. David played piano for some of his live performances and Iggy was backup vocals on one of David's albums. Maybe he wouldn't be as big of a draw as Gaga, but he and David seemed pretty close to go through rehab together. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2016 1:19:13 GMT -5
Don't plan to watch Gaga (never liked her) but I am still curious on why in the world would they have female singer do a tribute for a male singer? Just doesn't seem right to me. I can't imagine a female doing a long tribute to Elvis or Freddie Mercury or Michael at a major awards show either. I think one of the big reasons was that this was a CORPORATELY SPONSORED tribute. The corporate sponsor, Intel, wanted to promote it's image of being on the leading edge of innovation, like David Bowie was. And they wanted a star with BIG marketing power who could pull off the innovation message. Can you think of a BIG name male star who could do that? Justin Beaver, Justin Timberlake, Burno Mars, Adam Levine, Ed Sheeran - all too mainstream, even retro. Could you imagine any of them doing something so vastly different from mainstream as GaGa does? Our Adam of course could do it, but he does not have the big name marketing power that Intel wanted. And if GaGa had an ounce of integrity as a selfproclaimed worshipper of Bowie she would have adamantly declined to do such a tacky corporate stunt. |
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Post by 3ku1 on Feb 17, 2016 1:22:00 GMT -5
I tend to agree a multi artist tribute would of been better. But this was a corporate publicity spot stunt. Simple. Db deserved better. Adams tribute wss better.
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Post by Jablea on Feb 17, 2016 1:37:26 GMT -5
I think one of the big reasons was that this was a CORPORATELY SPONSORED tribute. The corporate sponsor, Intel, wanted to promote it's image of being on the leading edge of innovation, like David Bowie was. And they wanted a star with BIG marketing power who could pull off the innovation message. Can you think of a BIG name male star who could do that? Justin Beaver, Justin Timberlake, Burno Mars, Adam Levine, Ed Sheeran - all too mainstream, even retro. Could you imagine any of them doing something so vastly different from mainstream as GaGa does? Our Adam of course could do it, but he does not have the big name marketing power that Intel wanted. And if GaGa had an ounce of integrity as a selfproclaimed worshipper of Bowie she would have adamantly declined to do such a tacky corporate stunt. lol, I don't think it's looked at that way. Artists have always had sponsors, it's how the majority still survive because "art" just doesn't sell by itself very well except for a select few. A sponsor allowed her to delve more deeply into her art and provide a way to be avaunt guard. She was already working with Intel for a Grammy performance it just got changed from what she had planned into something for Bowie instead of her. As the person asked to be the tribute artist then she had the responsibility to develop the presentation. If this was what she wanted to do regardless would you feel better if she paid for it all herself? I didn't like her vision much but having a sponsor help underwrite the production value is art history. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2016 2:06:00 GMT -5
And if GaGa had an ounce of integrity as a selfproclaimed worshipper of Bowie she would have adamantly declined to do such a tacky corporate stunt. lol, I don't think it's looked at that way. Artists have always had sponsors, it's how the majority still survive because "art" just doesn't sell by itself very well except for a select few. A sponsor allowed her to delve more deeply into her art and provide a way to be avaunt guard. She was already working with Intel for a Grammy performance it just got changed from what she had planned into something for Bowie instead of her. As the person asked to be the tribute artist then she had the responsibility to develop the presentation. If this was what she wanted to do regardless would you feel better if she paid for it all herself? I didn't like her vision much but having a sponsor help underwrite the production value is art history. I look at it that way. An intel ad tied into a performance with her own music would have been fine, her music her choice. To essentially turn a legecy tribute into an ad for a product is below low class and imo has zero artist integrety. |
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Post by freakydeaky on Feb 17, 2016 5:57:58 GMT -5
And if GaGa had an ounce of integrity as a selfproclaimed worshipper of Bowie she would have adamantly declined to do such a tacky corporate stunt. lol, I don't think it's looked at that way. Artists have always had sponsors, it's how the majority still survive because "art" just doesn't sell by itself very well except for a select few. A sponsor allowed her to delve more deeply into her art and provide a way to be avaunt guard. She was already working with Intel for a Grammy performance it just got changed from what she had planned into something for Bowie instead of her. As the person asked to be the tribute artist then she had the responsibility to develop the presentation. If this was what she wanted to do regardless would you feel better if she paid for it all herself? I didn't like her vision much but having a sponsor help underwrite the production value is art history. I suppose that is just how it goes in most industries.. |
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