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Post by sizzling63 on Jul 28, 2017 16:17:18 GMT -5
talon, I too enjoy "good honest discourse" and my feathers don't mind getting "rankled" here and there Thanks for the "Bingo"!!
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Post by marionm on Jul 28, 2017 19:43:13 GMT -5
...when I read your post Talon it exemplified the situation perfectly. Just imagining someone else singing "Underneath", that Adam was on his knees recording and "Outlaws of love" which means so very much to Adam...it makes me cringe to say the least lol...while MAYBE, EVENTUALLY I could POSSIBLY be able to admit after some time that someone else does a good job, I'm quite sure no one could beat the original in my book...I would try and put the music first and be happy it is brought to new people that way though...(similar would go for 'There I said it', 'Soaked and 'Aftermath')...I think it would depend a little on the song now that I think of it some more... I do claim one basic difference in all this...Adam is a solo artist, Queen is a band with input from all members...when a solo artist passes it really is all about that one person...when a band member dies there are still the other band members...
...while I'm writing this I realize that tributes be it for bands like Queen or solo artists such as Elvis are a weird concept^^...I need to think about this what the motivation would be to go to such a thing...although probably would mind seeing a Abba tribute, they have fun songs...hmmm....(If anything more comes from this train of thought I'll let you know lol)
...when I first heard the lyrics of Bohemian Rhapsody I thought it was about suicide...this young man, who has taken his life and is in this kind of "in-between-sphere"...It would make sense for the part starting with the lines Adam sang for his auditon...not sure it makes sense with the rest of the lyrics tough^^
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2017 21:15:54 GMT -5
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Post by talon on Jul 29, 2017 7:58:27 GMT -5
...when I read your post Talon it exemplified the situation perfectly. Just imagining someone else singing "Underneath", that Adam was on his knees recording and "Outlaws of love" which means so very much to Adam...it makes me cringe to say the least lol...while MAYBE, EVENTUALLY I could POSSIBLY be able to admit after some time that someone else does a good job, I'm quite sure no one could beat the original in my book...I would try and put the music first and be happy it is brought to new people that way though...(similar would go for 'There I said it', 'Soaked and 'Aftermath')...I think it would depend a little on the song now that I think of it some more... I do claim one basic difference in all this...Adam is a solo artist, Queen is a band with input from all members...when a solo artist passes it really is all about that one person...when a band member dies there are still the other band members... ...while I'm writing this I realize that tributes be it for bands like Queen or solo artists such as Elvis are a weird concept^^...I need to think about this what the motivation would be to go to such a thing...although probably would mind seeing a Abba tribute, they have fun songs...hmmm....(If anything more comes from this train of thought I'll let you know lol) ...when I first heard the lyrics of Bohemian Rhapsody I thought it was about suicide...this young man, who has taken his life and is in this kind of "in-between-sphere"...It would make sense for the part starting with the lines Adam sang for his auditon...not sure it makes sense with the rest of the lyrics tough^^ Thank you It feels good to know that I can at least communicate well enough so some understand where I'm coming from. And the song does matter. There are certain songs that are far more "Freddie" songs than other even in the Queen catalogue. And even some songs by Queen/Freddie that I don't rate - like if QAL did Body Language - I'd say have at it with no remorse as that's my least favorite track, lol. Adam doing Love of My Life? That would be rough for me. It's okay seeing Brian do it..as he was there side by side with Freddie all those years as they performed it...so it emphasizes Freddie's absence (especially with the nice video ending). Others that are tough - The Show Must Go On (even as i say Adam does (and even Paul did) very well with it - given the history of the track - that one's tough for me to hear anyone else sing. Bo Rap is another one - though they can't NOT play it. But a few more - You Take My Breath Away (that snippet played during this run), Mother Love. Likewise there are plenty of tracks that I don't mind seeing different takes on (even if I still think that Freddie's versions are superior) - Tie Your Mother Down, Fat Bottomed Girls, Crazy Little Thing, Radio Ga Ga, I Want To Break Free - in fact for some reason I really love Roger singing it! As far as Bo Rap goes - some people believe it is Freddie trying to come out as gay. I like your interpretation as well...
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Post by thelambertluvva on Jul 29, 2017 15:02:41 GMT -5
Brian's opinion of Adam's voice should be taken with a grain of salt but Freddie fans should be believed? Brian loved Freddie and was closer to him than any fans. Many people think Adam has a better voice than Freddie and I am one of them. But I understand that it is an opinion. What I don't get is the animosity against Adam because he has been received so well and is getting many accolades about his voice and showmanship. It does not take anything away from Freddie. And trying to belittle Adam's awesome talent does not take anything away from him. He is the frontman now and most people are loving him even if some get angry or envious about him. Most are not going into the shows thinking but he did not write the material. They know that the songs are 25 years old or older. They are going into the shows to see his performance with Queen and he is passing with flying colors. If some can't enjoy it or embrace him because it is not Freddie then the problem is with them and not Adam. Freddie will not be back. Regardless if Brian exaggerates, none of his praise seems to come close to what he gives to Adam. Regarding Kerry as best rock voice in Britain? Britain has less than a fourth of the population of the US. Paul Rodgers being called The Voice that everyone looks up to? Big deal. Did he say Paul had the most extraordinary voice he's ever heard in his life? Has he said that about ANYONE else? I believe Brian is being sincere and I don't think he cares about genre. As much as I enjoy this collaboration, looking forward to when Freddie is no longer discussed on this ADAM fan site.
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Post by lurleene on Jul 29, 2017 16:59:12 GMT -5
Brian's opinion of Adam's voice should be taken with a grain of salt but Freddie fans should be believed? Brian loved Freddie and was closer to him than any fans. Many people think Adam has a better voice than Freddie and I am one of them. But I understand that it is an opinion. What I don't get is the animosity against Adam because he has been received so well and is getting many accolades about his voice and showmanship. It does not take anything away from Freddie. And trying to belittle Adam's awesome talent does not take anything away from him. He is the frontman now and most people are loving him even if some get angry or envious about him. Most are not going into the shows thinking but he did not write the material. They know that the songs are 25 years old or older. They are going into the shows to see his performance with Queen and he is passing with flying colors. If some can't enjoy it or embrace him because it is not Freddie then the problem is with them and not Adam. Freddie will not be back. Regardless if Brian exaggerates, none of his praise seems to come close to what he gives to Adam. Regarding Kerry as best rock voice in Britain? Britain has less than a fourth of the population of the US. Paul Rodgers being called The Voice that everyone looks up to? Big deal. Did he say Paul had the most extraordinary voice he's ever heard in his life? Has he said that about ANYONE else? I believe Brian is being sincere and I don't think he cares about genre. As much as I enjoy this collaboration, looking forward to when Freddie is no longer discussed on this ADAM fan site. Can't agree with you more. Brian, Roger and Adam are the only ones who get to decide what songs Adam sings. If they had to tip toe around what a few disgruntled fans think should have only been sung by Freddie, they would have no show. Of course, it seems that is what some want rather than see how great Adam is doing and all the accolades coming his way. But every show the fans are singing their and his praises to the chagrin of some on that hate filled site. Ugh! How the heck can someone be jealous of a singer who stepped into the frontman role 25 years after someone's death? They sound ridiculous especially since Brain, Roger and Adam don't give a fig what they want and don't want. They are doing their thing their way and most are loving them. A lot of the media get it but those that don't probably did not even like Freddie in the US when he was alive. That they keep trying to prove something that most are not buying is pretty telling.
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Post by talon on Jul 29, 2017 19:41:22 GMT -5
Brian's opinion of Adam's voice should be taken with a grain of salt but Freddie fans should be believed? Brian loved Freddie and was closer to him than any fans. Many people think Adam has a better voice than Freddie and I am one of them. But I understand that it is an opinion. What I don't get is the animosity against Adam because he has been received so well and is getting many accolades about his voice and showmanship. It does not take anything away from Freddie. And trying to belittle Adam's awesome talent does not take anything away from him. He is the frontman now and most people are loving him even if some get angry or envious about him. Most are not going into the shows thinking but he did not write the material. They know that the songs are 25 years old or older. They are going into the shows to see his performance with Queen and he is passing with flying colors. If some can't enjoy it or embrace him because it is not Freddie then the problem is with them and not Adam. Freddie will not be back. Regardless if Brian exaggerates, none of his praise seems to come close to what he gives to Adam. Regarding Kerry as best rock voice in Britain? Britain has less than a fourth of the population of the US. Paul Rodgers being called The Voice that everyone looks up to? Big deal. Did he say Paul had the most extraordinary voice he's ever heard in his life? Has he said that about ANYONE else? I believe Brian is being sincere and I don't think he cares about genre. As much as I enjoy this collaboration, looking forward to when Freddie is no longer discussed on this ADAM fan site. Well when he stops singing Freddie's song and songs made famous by Freddie and the band and the collaboration ends, then you probably will get your wish
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Post by talon on Jul 29, 2017 19:41:55 GMT -5
Regardless if Brian exaggerates, none of his praise seems to come close to what he gives to Adam. Regarding Kerry as best rock voice in Britain? Britain has less than a fourth of the population of the US. Paul Rodgers being called The Voice that everyone looks up to? Big deal. Did he say Paul had the most extraordinary voice he's ever heard in his life? Has he said that about ANYONE else? I believe Brian is being sincere and I don't think he cares about genre. As much as I enjoy this collaboration, looking forward to when Freddie is no longer discussed on this ADAM fan site. Can't agree with you more. Brian, Roger and Adam are the only ones who get to decide what songs Adam sings. If they had to tip toe around what a few disgruntled fans think should have only been sung by Freddie, they would have no show. Of course, it seems that is what some want rather than see how great Adam is doing and all the accolades coming his way. But every show the fans are singing their and his praises to the chagrin of some on that hate filled site. Ugh! How the heck can someone be jealous of a singer who stepped into the frontman role 25 years after someone's death? They sound ridiculous especially since Brain, Roger and Adam don't give a fig what they want and don't want. They are doing their thing their way and most are loving them. A lot of the media get it but those that don't probably did not even like Freddie in the US when he was alive. That they keep trying to prove something that most are not buying is pretty telling. Once again - it's not jealousy. I'm not even sure where you get that from...And again the idea that someone couldn't possibly not like Adam because they just...don't like Adam. They MUST have an ulterior motive! I mean if I was to go that route I would talk to posters like you and say..."You like Adam better than Freddie? NO WAY! You must be jealous that Freddie has so many hit singles and is considered the world over to be one of the greatest if not the greatest frontmen in the history of music, in the rock and roll hall of fame, sold over 300 million albums...yada yada yada....you only wish Adam had that kind of success!" But I don't. Because I get it - it's your opinion...and you don't have to have an ulterior motive...
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Post by lurleene on Jul 29, 2017 20:21:09 GMT -5
Can't agree with you more. Brian, Roger and Adam are the only ones who get to decide what songs Adam sings. If they had to tip toe around what a few disgruntled fans think should have only been sung by Freddie, they would have no show. Of course, it seems that is what some want rather than see how great Adam is doing and all the accolades coming his way. But every show the fans are singing their and his praises to the chagrin of some on that hate filled site. Ugh! How the heck can someone be jealous of a singer who stepped into the frontman role 25 years after someone's death? They sound ridiculous especially since Brain, Roger and Adam don't give a fig what they want and don't want. They are doing their thing their way and most are loving them. A lot of the media get it but those that don't probably did not even like Freddie in the US when he was alive. That they keep trying to prove something that most are not buying is pretty telling. Once again - it's not jealousy. I'm not even sure where you get that from...And again the idea that someone couldn't possibly not like Adam because they just...don't like Adam. They MUST have an ulterior motive! I mean if I was to go that route I would talk to posters like you and say..."You like Adam better than Freddie? NO WAY! You must be jealous that Freddie has so many hit singles and is considered the world over to be one of the greatest if not the greatest frontmen in the history of music, in the rock and roll hall of fame, sold over 300 million albums...yada yada yada....you only wish Adam had that kind of success!" But I don't. Because I get it - it's your opinion...and you don't have to have an ulterior motive... Anyone who spends that much time every time that Adam performs with Queen (trying to convince everyone that Adam is not as good as his fans and people think he is) would be green with envy. But if it makes the QOL people feel better after 25 years to have a target and it makes them happy to spend their time being threatened by the new sexy frontman with the great voice, they can have at it. Queen and Adam are still going to put on a show and please as many fans as they can. There is just nothing the envious can do about it other than whine.
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Post by danae on Jul 29, 2017 20:43:15 GMT -5
Can't agree with you more. Brian, Roger and Adam are the only ones who get to decide what songs Adam sings. If they had to tip toe around what a few disgruntled fans think should have only been sung by Freddie, they would have no show. Of course, it seems that is what some want rather than see how great Adam is doing and all the accolades coming his way. But every show the fans are singing their and his praises to the chagrin of some on that hate filled site. Ugh! How the heck can someone be jealous of a singer who stepped into the frontman role 25 years after someone's death? They sound ridiculous especially since Brain, Roger and Adam don't give a fig what they want and don't want. They are doing their thing their way and most are loving them. A lot of the media get it but those that don't probably did not even like Freddie in the US when he was alive. That they keep trying to prove something that most are not buying is pretty telling. Once again - it's not jealousy. I'm not even sure where you get that from...And again the idea that someone couldn't possibly not like Adam because they just...don't like Adam. They MUST have an ulterior motive! I mean if I was to go that route I would talk to posters like you and say..."You like Adam better than Freddie? NO WAY! You must be jealous that Freddie has so many hit singles and is considered the world over to be one of the greatest if not the greatest frontmen in the history of music, in the rock and roll hall of fame, sold over 300 million albums...yada yada yada....you only wish Adam had that kind of success!" But I don't. Because I get it - it's your opinion...and you don't have to have an ulterior motive... Man, I just had to respond to this, though I know I'm probably getting in trouble, especially since this is probably only my third post. As a longtime Queen fan, I totally get it. The comparisons will always be there, much as I don't like them. This is a nostalgia act. This is not Queen re-forming with Adam as the new frontman. This is Brian and Roger in their golden years touring with their greatest hits in homage to Queen legacy with a powerful, young singer. Adam also gets it. I've seen at least an interview where, when asked about new music with Queen, he said that he is open to the idea, but that with new music they couldn't be called Queen anymore. I also believe (and that's just my personal opinion) that Adam doesn't want arguments comparing his voice to Freddie's out there. Of course longtime Queen fans like hearing Freddie's voice on Queen songs. He wrote them, he made them famous, he was an integral part of the creative force behind the Queen behemoth. Think about it this way: say something happens to Adam and he can't sing anymore, and some young kid with a spectacular voice starts touring with Adam's songs and his legacy, gathers passionate fans who then start to argue and compare and say that he is singing better than Adam sang his own songs. Then multiply that feeling you would get by about a hundred thousand. That's how Queen fans feel like when faced with the Adam is better than Freddie line. I am one of the Queen fans who actually like this collaboration a lot, and I'm extremely excited to go see them live on Monday. I am also an Adam fan, and have been since Idol. I sometimes wish his own music would switch direction, but I am thrilled to hear anything he puts out because I like his voice and think that he is criminally underrated as a pop artist. He is one of the few pop acts I actually listen to, and I have been supporting him in every way I can. But Freddie's will always be the voice I hear in my head when I hum a Queen song, and while I love Adam and his work with Brian and Roger, my heart is always with Freddie first when it comes to Queen. It's not that I don't like Adam- because I do, a whole lot. But Queen is Freddie first and will always be. And that's ok, in my opinion. Does that make me a bad Adam fan? I don't think so. I enjoy their performances tremendously, and I'm grateful for Adam's respect and tremendous job he's been doing, because I get to see him and Brian and Roger live. I guess the main message through all my rambling is that not everyone who likes Freddie over Adam with Queen dislikes Adam- because Freddie IS Queen. And if some Queen fans don't like Adam at all, that's ok. ETA: wow, I've already posted 9 times! Just noticed the counter in my profile 😆 Also ETA: this is not a response to Talon, just responding to the last post in this conversation. Apologies. I'm still figuring out how posting works.
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