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Post by Q3 on Jul 14, 2024 23:35:31 GMT -5
Here is today's news thread.
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Post by pi on Jul 15, 2024 3:01:07 GMT -5
First Time Listening & Reacting To Adam Lambert - A Change Is Gonna Come.
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Post by pi on Jul 15, 2024 3:53:26 GMT -5
Denzel⁷ @kuyadenzel95 Me telling him how much his music meant to me when I was in high school 😭😭  |
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Post by pi on Jul 15, 2024 3:55:49 GMT -5
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Post by quackn on Jul 15, 2024 4:54:19 GMT -5
First Time Listening & Reacting To Adam Lambert - A Change Is Gonna Come.
This is one of my favorite covers that Adam has done. I sit mesmerized everytime I see it, and I do go back to watch it over and over again. I am confused by Simon's comment. Back in the game? Was he ever out? I know there was one time he was in the bottom three, but only that one time. So, I don't get the back in the game comment. And, I aways smile at Paula's "you will be iconic". She was sooooooo correct abut him. |
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Post by cleopatra on Jul 15, 2024 7:53:05 GMT -5
This is one of my favorite covers that Adam has done. I sit mesmerized everytime I see it, and I do go back to watch it over and over again. I am confused by Simon's comment. Back in the game? Was he ever out? I know there was one time he was in the bottom three, but only that one time. So, I don't get the back in the game comment. And, I aways smile at Paula's "you will be iconic". She was sooooooo correct abut him. "A Change Is Gonna Come" was Adam's second round performance during the final performance show. Simon hadn't cared for Adam's first round reprise of "Mad World", saying it was too theatrical. So his "back in the game" comment meant he thought Adam came back from a weak first round performance (I didn't agree with Simon about "Mad World", but that's neither here nor there). |
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Post by svca on Jul 15, 2024 8:00:41 GMT -5
Yes, Simon and his "theatrical" lol...he sure changed his tune on that. Now he's definitely an Adam stan.
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Post by sizzling63 on Jul 15, 2024 12:08:06 GMT -5
“Mad World” was a big moment. I did prefer the more toned down first version though where he rose from the chair, and I had a very similar reaction to “Tracks of my Tears”, which came the week after “Ring of Fire”. Of course Adam had to change up MW to perform it again, and it was clever the way he staged it, though I could not connect as well to the black coat number. For me too it felt too theatrical.
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Post by lurleene on Jul 15, 2024 12:19:32 GMT -5
The black coat version was my favorite version of MW (separated him from the typical Idol). But the first version had more impact and had people talking for sure.
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Post by lurleene on Jul 15, 2024 12:34:46 GMT -5
Adam has said that gay artists are killing it in the mainstream now but I don't see it. LGBT women are doing great but they always have. They do well in pop (dominated by women) and even better in rock. Tho many have been out for years, they make it more about their music than their sexuality or sex lives. So they are treated as individual talented musicians with little backlash and many accomplishments. Not the case for gay men. I don't see that they have made a lot of progress in the mainstream. LNX and Sam were doing great until they started to make it less about their music and more about their identities. Now they are not doing as well. And because they often dress as if they are attending a Halloween party, they are treated as caricatures by many. Instead of opening doors it seems they are closing some. Troye Sivan, whether he presents as more effeminate or not seems to have made little difference and stays at the same level. Adam had more of an impact because he was out at the beginning of his career and everyone knew he was gay. He alone took in a lot of incoming fire from the homophobes but he handled it without showing anger, even if he felt that way. He made no apologies for who he was and took care of it all with strength, grace and dignity, which endeared him to many fans outside his community.
Yes Sam, LNX and Frank have the Grammy's and received massive radio play. Adam did not but it may have been partly because maybe the majors did not view him as pop. It requires a lot of money and support to push a pop artist. That could have been because of his age, persona and/or style. Tho, it is puzzling that with Adam's enormous talent and appeal, they failed to expose him to other genres and demographics that catered less to youngsters. Maybe Adam didn't want that but who knows?
But Adam has a lot to be proud of. He has worldwide success and more diverse accomplishments and opportunities than many others. He is a fantastic spokesperson, advocate and representative for his community. He is recognized as a serious artist and man. And he has the same net worth of Sam (even with his Grammy's and Oscar). But I'm still not seeing all the progress that gay men have made in the mainstream. Effeminate or not, they are still men (they are not one of the divas) and pop is a woman's game mostly. Young girls and teens idolize the ladies and fantasize about dating young looking guys like Harry. I'm not even sure that gay men are clamoring to see the new Sam busting out of a corset or LNX dancing in a mini skirt. So I will not view it as progress until radio plays their music (good music and not the crappy stuff, lol). Or until talented gay men are allowed to excel in all genres and not relegated to niche dance/pop music because they think that is all that is available to them. That music does not require much vocal talent or well written an meaningful lyrics. And if it is mainly played in gay/drag clubs then that is no different than it always was. That is not some major liberation or progress for gay men. But still hope that one day it comes for talented artists like Adam.
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