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Post by marionm on Oct 29, 2019 15:40:49 GMT -5
Thought of that too. But it only works with celebrities to a certain degree because i doubt any hotel would want a big crowd like Mendes or Bieber pull infront disturbing their other guests lol They generally do it when they have left or are leaving. Don't know about Mendes as I don't pay a lot of attention to him. But Bieber certainly did them at one time. I'm talking about future stays. Fans can find celebs faster when they know where they stay as soon as they find out they're in town.
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Post by lurleene on Oct 29, 2019 15:42:09 GMT -5
Individuals do not have the power to effect this. Recycling or reuse or no use is great but it's small potatoes. This is a multi-national corporation problem. What you as an individual can do is help elect politicians that will try to rein them in. I both agree and disagree. Certainly changes in corporate policy would have a quicker significant impact and electing politicians who care about the environment would provide a boost in making changes. But those type of changes can begin with individuals accepting that their personal behaviors and actions can make a difference. For instance when a teacher casually requires that young students put unwanted drawings in a recycle bin or snotty tissues in a compost bin, then we are modelling behaviors that can grow into collective action. We must care and that care begins by acting individually despite how insignificant it might appear. That is true. And many people, including celebrities, probably take small steps as well. But just because they don't announce it means nothing is being done. Can they do it with everything and every situation? No. Neither can the rest of us. And we can't really dictate to celebrities what causes they want to take up publicly. They have free will like everyone else. But we can vote and we can contact our representatives. There you would have a better chance, even if small, of someone actually listening to you.
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Post by marionm on Oct 29, 2019 15:53:04 GMT -5
I both agree and disagree. Certainly changes in corporate policy would have a quicker significant impact and electing politicians who care about the environment would provide a boost in making changes. But those type of changes can begin with individuals accepting that their personal behaviors and actions can make a difference. For instance when a teacher casually requires that young students put unwanted drawings in a recycle bin or snotty tissues in a compost bin, then we are modelling behaviors that can grow into collective action. We must care and that care begins by acting individually despite how insignificant it might appear. That is true. And many people, including celebrities, probably take small steps as well. But just because they don't announce it does not mean nothing is being done. Can they do it with everything and every situation? No. Neither can the rest of us. And we can't really dictate to celebrities what causes they want to take up publicly. They have free will like everyone else. But we can vote and we can contact our representatives. There you would have a better chance, even if small, of someone actually listening to you. When i look around the "hollywood" Landscape it seems pretty much every ofher possible subject is more favored to get involved in than Environmentalism and i understand it! It's unconfortable because it demands personal sacrifices, if you really mean it. To add i do agree that politicians can and should/must play a big role as well. Through open and honest communication and constructive dialog they could do wonders in bringing the general public along. Unfortunately listeners are turned of and made vary of the topic by nitpicking, politicising, talking over each other and in general just a ugly debate.
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Post by lurleene on Oct 29, 2019 16:11:40 GMT -5
That is true. And many people, including celebrities, probably take small steps as well. But just because they don't announce it does not mean nothing is being done. Can they do it with everything and every situation? No. Neither can the rest of us. And we can't really dictate to celebrities what causes they want to take up publicly. They have free will like everyone else. But we can vote and we can contact our representatives. There you would have a better chance, even if small, of someone actually listening to you. When i look around the "hollywood" Landscape it seems pretty much every ofher possible subject is more favored to get involved in than Environmentalism and i understand it! It's unconfortable because it demands personal sacrifices, if you really mean it. Why so much focus on Hollywood for solving this issue? My goodness, if they had the ability to solve all the ills of the US, or the world, a lot of ugliness would have been eliminated by now. We need to stop expecting others to make things right for us and do our part to make some changes. Pointing the finger at them seems a wasted effort to me. It is a world problem and not only the US, let alone Hollywood can make the changes. Just like blaming Hollywood for the drug culture and gun violence (they are a favorite scapegoat by one party here) does nothing to solve the problem. The governments and politicians would play a bigger role for major issues. Why not take it to them in our different countries, instead of letting them off the hook? I'm done,lol. Back to Adam. Can't wait to see him on the Talk.
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Post by nica575 on Oct 29, 2019 16:14:35 GMT -5
A sad anecdote: remember how QAL was “fighting plastics in oceans” as one of the GC causes? So at the concert the venue was giving out these reusable plastic bottles to promote reusability in plastics, saying how terrible it was to see all these one time use water bottles littering the field after the concert and how this was not going to happen this time because the GC audience is so environmentally conscious. i am sure you already guessed where I am going with this... yup... After the concert the field was literally covered with not only one time use bottles but with those reusable ones as well. it was just horrible to see... after all those speeches...
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Post by LindaG23 on Oct 29, 2019 16:22:43 GMT -5
marionmI know you are making a general statement about the responsibility of those in the public eye. Small things can make a difference. I have noticed a ton of stories about Meghan Markle wearing her outfits multiple times like this is big news ... and it is really. Many of the fast fashion companies, like H&M and Forever 21 (which is declaring bankruptcy), are struggling financially because perspective is changing.
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Post by Nocturnal on Oct 29, 2019 16:22:58 GMT -5
This live version is so fun. I Love it , love it , love it. And, my purple tie- dye VELVET T shirt came today just in time for the Cities 97 Give Back show ! Can’t wait !!!!
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Post by marionm on Oct 29, 2019 16:23:34 GMT -5
@lurleene First: celebrities shape art and culture and they have a HUGE influence on their following. FULL STOP
second: donating x-amount of money to environmental issues is simply bogus if you have a hundret times higher carbon footprint than a poor african or asian family. There is a reason "letters of indulgence" are not a thing (anymore)
third: "so much" focus on Hollywood? I brought up the critique in the context of the fires that came up here. It is merely meant as ONE brick (however small or big you think that brick is) to a global and deeply complex topic. As you can see I've critizised politicians as well in the course of this discussion. Privately i HEAVILY critizise politics and have taken action in the street. In the course of this dialog in trying to further explain and exemplify my point it might have become seemingly overhightend.
nica575 it broke my (obviously green) heart to see all the plastic cups on the floor after my Queen concerts. It can't be security reasons because they have big glass "Masskrüge" at the Oktobefest.
LindaG23 I always laugh (and shake my head) when it reads "recycled her clothers" (Kate does it too). like wtf. I've had some jeans for over 10 years!
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Post by sizzling63 on Oct 29, 2019 16:50:51 GMT -5
Individuals do not have the power to effect this. Recycling or reuse or no use is great but it's small potatoes. This is a multi-national corporation problem. What you as an individual can do is help elect politicians that will try to rein them in. I both agree and disagree. Certainly changes in corporate policy would have a quicker significant impact and electing politicians who care about the environment would provide a boost in making changes. But those type of changes can begin with individuals accepting that their personal behaviors and actions can make a difference. For instance when a teacher casually requires that young students put unwanted drawings in a recycle bin or snotty tissues in a compost bin, then we are modelling behaviors that can grow into collective action. We must care and that care begins by acting individually despite how insignificant it might appear. I don't disagree, however we are running out of time. Big corporations worldwide together with world leaders need to step up.
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Post by sizzling63 on Oct 29, 2019 17:01:45 GMT -5
This is definitely the first time that I see someone describe a hotel as "sensual". I was surprised by that description.
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