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Post by bobo on Apr 9, 2013 22:16:13 GMT -5
That confirms my theory that Sauli was the one, who didn't want to get married. Adam said in Nov. 2011 : " I'd never considered marriage before," Lambert says. “But now that I am, I can’t do it.”
Adam has said many many times he might like to get married someday but for now he is not ready. He has also said "No" many time & I always wondered how Sauli felt about that. When he used the quote you paraphrased above (not in that video, BTW) what he meant was that now that he was in love and might consider marriage, the laws in most of the US do not allow it. IMO, it was purely a statement about our current Marriage Equality fight. With his schedule, I don't think Adam has wanted to get married. He has even said that. Remember when he first said that and the Finnish newspapers took it as a putdown to Sauli. Then Sauli made his joke about taking his wedding gown back! Were you a fan at that time. It was pretty funny and cute! Yes I remember all that very well and I also remember that people wondered how Sauli felt about that. But because I knew what kind of opinions Sauli has concerning marriage I didn't think that way. I thought the opposite. I felt sorry for Adam, who I thought maybe would like to talk about getting married. I also thought he meant what he said in Rolling Stones (" I'd never considered marriage before," Lambert says. “But now that I am, I can’t do it.” ), but had to take it back due to Sauli maybe asking him funny questions. Adam said afterwards that he didn't say exactly so, but the interviewer had taped it. . According to my point of view Adam had to change his public opinion of getting married due to the fact that he was dating a boyfriend, who was against marriage. Sauli said the same thing also again in Helsinki this year when he was interviewed in the TV-show (Korkojen Kera). He said he is not interested in the marriage issue at all. Our opinions are grounded on things we know and because we know different things, we easily have different opinions. These are just opinions and no one of us knows the truth. (I'm sure nobody understands what I'm saying. I wish I could write in Finnish or Swedish).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2013 22:16:18 GMT -5
Great idea about the letter and photo! You should do it, albiku!
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Post by barbaraindallas on Apr 9, 2013 22:18:40 GMT -5
Albiku,
Having only met you on a computer, but feeling what a warm, caring person you are, I have no doubt that Adam knew your good heart when he met you in person. He's such a great judge of character. No worries.
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Post by bobo on Apr 9, 2013 22:23:08 GMT -5
Sauli said 6 years ago during a drunken night in the BB house, that he will never date women, get married or have kids. Please do not make assumptions that he was the one not wanting to get married on a discussion like that, when he was not even talking about men and was very young at the time. We don't know anything about how he feels about marriage right now. Finland didn't have gay marriage back then and we still don't. So would not have been much of a realistic dream for a gay boy anyway then. Sauli has still the same opinion about marriage. Did you watch "Korkojen kera" ?
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Post by DancyGeorgia on Apr 9, 2013 22:32:51 GMT -5
Yes, myspenser, I was a fan at the time of that quote. I do agree he was generally talking about marriage equality, and Sauli made a joke about having the perfect dress. But this time, he's being very direct about wanting to marry. He hasn't been so direct before, which I always took as this is a private issue that I am speaking about publicly that I don't have the answer to yet. It surprizes me to hear Sauli said he would never marry. I think bobo is referring to something that he may have said before he met Adam? And Sauli , if I remember correctly has been in another long term relationship. Sauli was also wearing a silver band since Xmas, maybe longer. I have noticed that he consistently wore that ring while others he would just wear occasionally. He isn't wearing it in the picture of him in Vegas. I have to go, we have a huge thunderstorm, and my power went out once already. bobo.. we must continue this conversation later... love you!!!!!!!!!! Didn't Sauli say somewhere that the silver band (ring) was a gift from his sister (I think twin sister)? My impression was that this ring meant a lot to him because of the person who gave it to him.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2013 22:38:49 GMT -5
Yes. He did say it was from his sister
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Post by bobo on Apr 9, 2013 22:47:40 GMT -5
Please remember that I'm telling only what kind of thoughts I have had. They are not facts. Just my feelings about how I have been dealing with things in my mind. Q3: "I think that you may be right about Sauli not wanting to get married but I do not take this as Adam wanting to get married. Considering it would only mean thinking about it -- which is more than Sauli ever said. This interview was in November 2011 when the only song from Trespassing that anyone had heard was OOL. The interview it came from was about the upcoming album -- here it is. (Rolling Stone Dec 8 issue comes out in November.)" I can buy that.
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Post by DancyGeorgia on Apr 9, 2013 22:51:13 GMT -5
I've caught up on reading the thread and surprised that there has been no real discussion of the things Adam says about music in the SFGN interview. Below are some of the important quotes from the interview. Note the dreaded word "soon". He hasn't actually started any new music, just been in discussions about it's direction. Adam notes that what is popular is shifting and this appears to be in a direction that he likes, i.e., more organic, real music, emotional songs. And Adam wants to do something different from the first 2 albums. Putting all this together, I think Adam will try for something that will be on the leading edge of where popular music is going and hopefully help define that direction!!!
Excerpts from SFGN interview:And a lowlight?
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"There’s a lot of conformity in the pop music world. Figuring out what works and what doesn’t. But at the end of the day people do recognize good music and that’s really exciting. I think the music industry is shifting right now and changing and it feels like its getting more organic again. And getting back to valuing real music and emotional songs. It’s exciting." What can we expect on your next album? Will it be similar to the first two?
I hope not. I definitely see myself as somebody that wants to explore something new every time I do a new project. So I think the inspiration will probably be something different.
So country music then?
Totally that’s the plan. How did you know? [laughs] We’ve actually started brainstorming what this next project is going to be. I can’t say anything more about it right now, but I’m excited. I’m going to start working on new music soon. I don’t know when exactly. I don’t know how long that’s going to take to wrap up.
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Post by gingerpf on Apr 9, 2013 22:53:04 GMT -5
We all are intimidated in meeting him, because we are keenly aware of that one hundred thousand to one problem that exists between fans and their star. We each would like to spend a whole weekend with Adam and tell him hundreds of things, but the reality is we are aware that we are impeding on his private time and so we don't want to take more than just mere seconds and that difference between what is bottled up inside of us and the reality of the situation makes this moment so difficult for us. It has nothing to do with him. He does everything to make us feel so welcome, but yet, it is a very overwhelming and difficult moment to actually meet him, due to that emotion overload. Tbh, because of my fear of that, I have not even attempted yet to meet him. I would not know how to make a real connection work in 15 seconds, so you are further along than I am. Please don't feel like you have to do that now, I am just saying, if you keep beating yourself up and cannot get rid of your bad feeling, then this is your way out. Craazy - I love your suggestion to Albiku to write to Adam! Great idea! But I just gotta comment on this part of what you said. I FEEL LIKE THIS TOO! I have never tried to meet Adam face to face because I really don't know what I could say to him that he's hasn't heard a thousand times. I've never been "starstruck" when I've met famous people, so I'm sure I wouldn't have a problem actually TALKING to him. He's a super friendly guy. I think we all would like to make some sort of impression on him & say something special, but with all the fans he meets, he's probably already heard it a thousand times. I don't need a picture with him, I don't need his autograph. But I think if I ever ACCIDENTALLY had an opportunity to meet him, like if I ran into him at an airport or something, I would definitely go over to him & introduce myself & just THANK him for everything he gives to his fans....the music, the concerts, the interviews, the "photo ops", and tell him how much I appreciate all he gives of himself to us. Even though he's heard it before, I don't think he ever gets tired of hearing how much we love him. Of course I can say this calmly while I'm sitting at my computer. I kinda think if I ever looked directly into those eyes of his up close & personal, it might be kinda hard to be "cool". So maybe I'm full of shit. ???
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Post by momtomany on Apr 9, 2013 22:56:25 GMT -5
Just listened to 'I Can't Make You Love Me' on the voice.
Not talking about the competition . . . but the song took me back to a young man at the Upright Cabaret. His interpretation, filled with heartbreak, just broke me.
I want to believe this song is not part of the story of Adam and Sauli. That's it.
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